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05-12-2006, 06:29 PM
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SVO / WVO setup questions
I have a 79 M.B. 300sd that I am getting ready to convert.
Was thinking that until I have the filtering method down, maybe I should just have a setup where I replace the cubee's in the trunk of the car rather than putting in a permanent fuel tank........ any advice?  Also, How do you know how many microns the filters are? Do they say on the box? And how far down should the WVO be filtered? 1 micron? Thanks for any and all advice! Last edited by trektravel; 05-12-2006 at 10:37 PM. 
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05-12-2006, 07:26 PM
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hello
hello,
I have an 1983 300sd... I drove 348 miles this week on straight veggie oil... that i got from 1 bar and 1 grocrery. I filter it with the leg of a pair of blue jeans that i get from good will and I pour it straight into the fuel tank... I have no second tank.... If your dieing to have a 2 tank system... go buy an old out board boat tank... or 2 of them... and strap them down... I have seen them for 10 and 15 bucks... and they are usually 6 gals.... I think the cubbies might not be very safe... as far as filtering oil... you really dont have to filter it at all....All the nasties and uglies fall to the bottom.... So if you take a bucket and let it sit all the bad stuff goes to the bottom even water... so the stuff you skimm off the top is clean....let your oil sit a few days... then take the stuff off the top.. and pour it through a filter bag or leg of a pair of blue jeans... then go ahead and drive on that.... I pour mine in a glass last night and eyeballed it and it looks very clear.... clearer than diesel... 
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#3
05-12-2006, 07:37 PM
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What's this? " WVO be finteres? 1 micron?"
Probably not mis-spelled as much as miss-typed. The writer should know he can edit his thread and correct that.
Anyway, if you have a good running SD, instead of hauling around a cube or two of WVO in the trunk, why not add it directly to the fuel tank - run it cold and run it clean. Always carry a set of filters along and the basic tools to change them. If not a set of filters, then at the very minimum one or two primary filters. Keep them clean and dry in a ziplock bag. As soon as you realize that the engine is down on power, stop and change that little filter. After you have changed a couple of them, with a screw driver you should be able to change it in two to three minutes, and if your car was running when you shut it down, it should fire up instantly. As to how clean do you want your oil filtered, I would say clean enough that it doesn't foul the primary filter very often. If you would even have to change that little filter every 500 miles, you are not getting it clean enough. I am getting about 6000 miles on my primary. Not real good, but I can live with it.
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#4
05-12-2006, 08:26 PM
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Agghh, running cold veggie in the MB is a death sentence. Yes it will work for a while, but save your money for an engine rebuild. Heat that oil and save the engine.
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1981 300D 147k 1998 VW Jetta Tdi 320k 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 141k 1979 300D 234k (sold) 1984 300D "Astor" 262k(sold) Mercedes How-To and Repair Pictorials I love the smell of diesel smoke in my hair 
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#5
05-12-2006, 08:35 PM
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why
i dont understand why everyone thinks its a death sentence....
I am told that it will produce coke.... well I can soak a fuel injector in parts cleaner and remove coke... and i can also clean coke out of a cylinder... so why do you think its a death sentence?
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05-12-2006, 09:13 PM
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I know the 603s already have a fuel preheater, is that adaptable to a 617 too? I plan to make the bio here by June and am curious how it'll work out. Not just straight WVO.
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I'm not a doctor, but I'll have a look.  '85 300SD 245k '87 300SDL 251k '90 300SEL 326k Six others from BMW, GM, and Ford. Liberty will not descend to a people; a people must raise themselves to liberty.[/IMG] Last edited by Hit Man X; 05-12-2006 at 09:29 PM.
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#7
05-12-2006, 09:20 PM
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It will also coke up the ring lands, prechambers etc etc. If the only issue was the injectors, then you could just purge it once a month or so. You coke the ring lands then the rings get sticky stop doing their job and you get increase cylinder liner wear, low compression then a dead engine. If you are saving that much money that you can average in an engine rebuild, then maybe the numbers will work for you. Either make bio diesel or heat the oil, the only other alternative is budget for engine rebuild.
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1981 300D 147k 1998 VW Jetta Tdi 320k 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 141k 1979 300D 234k (sold) 1984 300D "Astor" 262k(sold) Mercedes How-To and Repair Pictorials I love the smell of diesel smoke in my hair
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#8
05-12-2006, 09:44 PM
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i think
i think carbon and goop can be removed from inside the cylinder...
in the resturant world there is the product call "diablo" carbon remover you soak any metal in it and it will clean it perfectly... what is to stop me from filling the cylinders with this while I am cleaning the injectors... then I could simply remove it and rince the cylinders with say oil or diesel...
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#9
05-12-2006, 10:45 PM
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Blue Ranger,
You must be in a warmer climate than I am.... It was 29F the other night, and from what I have read, it is very hard to start straight VO and it is hard on the injectors. I definately want two tanks, just wanted to know if there was a benefit to having a permanent tank instead of having a replaceable cubee that sits inside of a mounted box (similar to a battery box). Also, does anyone have any words of wisdom and caution before I mount my Vormax in the trunk? Thanks! 
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#10
05-12-2006, 11:01 PM
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saw
i saw a guy using out board engine fuel tanks... they are cheap used... and if you had 2 of the same kinds... with 1/4 turn lid.... you run your hot water through the lid... and put an L shaped pipe into the tank and it will heat your tank... then you just take the lid out and switch tanks....
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#11
05-13-2006, 01:57 AM
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I have been runing mine on bio now for a while it got rid of the rough cold running problem I was having It was shaking and had what I guess was "nialing " when cold but it is now pertty smooth and a lot quieter.Veggi is a home built system HOH to 3 micron filter to heatexchanger at engine then 6 port with 3 port purge for Bio diesel side .20 gal home built tank and I do return to tank.
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