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Engine Swap - 300D into a 240D
Who's done it? How are the results? Ease of installation? Problems, etc... I've located a 300D parts car with a good turbo engine that I would love to drop into my simple little 240D with stick. I've tried using the search function but it doesnt seem to be working.... Im sure its been done so if somebody could point me to a thread i'd be happy.
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Imho,
A very easy swap. Straightforward. I swapped a 300D into my 240D with very few changes. The driveshaft was the biggest change. Swipe everything you can from the parts car, i.e. glow plug wiring, gp timer relay, etc. I did have a slight problem with the exhaust pipe. I had to cut a few inches out to get it to fit.
Keep in mind, mine was an automatic. I do believe there is some challenge with the flywheel in relation to the manual trans. THe experts on here can guide you through that. Good luck swapping, Kevin |
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My son and I did it through a non-pressured season.
It was fun and we learned a ton and the car is performing awesome now. I had three cars to draw from however which really helped. I already had a flywheel from a 300D manual and I also had the driveshaft. The only things I had to adjust were the tranny linkage rods (remove 4") and the tranny support beam. Some say the flywheel from the 240D is fine and others recommend one from a 300D. Later on we added a better 'ratioed' rear end and now our project is complete. Given the fact that we were rookies, I highly recommend the project. The forum here is absolutely invaluable. Couldn't have even begun without it. Don
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DAILY DRIVERS: '84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's) '99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's) '97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's) '97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's) '96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's '84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion) SOLD: '82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed |
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Thanks, it doesnt look too bad. I'm in sort of a dilema of my own creating . I have an 81 240D that I love but is a little underpowered for my hobbies, and a recently purchased 83 300TD wagon that needs some work and I dont particularly like because of 2 main reasons - Slushpump (ie. automatic), and the darn climate-control is so much more convoluted than the 240D (is it possible to switch out this with the 240?). I have limited time, space and money and cant rationally keep both....and I underestimated how much I hate automatics (i bought it thinking I could deal with it). The bottom line is I want a reliable car that can push up the appalachian hills loaded down with people and gear (the 300TD), but the manual tranny and simplicity and ease of maintenance of the 240D.
I guess the question is: If you had a choice would you buy a parts car and drop a 300D motor in the 240, or convert the wagon over to manual 4 or 5 speed and try and convert the automatic climate control to the "knob and dial" of the 240? Would converting the 300TD to manual be more of a hassle then the engine swap? Thanks for reading. Any wisdom from the vets is appreciated...... Joel |
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I'd try to tweek the TD first and get all the power out of it that its capable of. I would hesitate to go through all the work of swapping engines, etc it you're frustrated with the TD's power. Why? You may want to consider an all-together different vehicle if the mountains bug you.
Most of us love these things and they are great on the highway. I've not had enough mountain experience with them to suggest one way or the other. Don
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DAILY DRIVERS: '84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's) '99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's) '97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's) '97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's) '96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's '84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion) SOLD: '82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed |
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its not the TD engine power i have a problem with, its that they mated such a wonderful engine up to an automatic transmission. it just begs to be set free! I like to determine when I want to shift, especially for mtn driving and the auto-tranny just aint cuttin it for me personally.
I imagine that I will just have to get used to it or sell it. Anyway thanks for listening to my "problems" |
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Just because the TD is an automatic doesn't mean you can't move the control stick out of 'D'. Just returned from almost a week in Colorado, and I guarantee I did a lot of stick moving on my auto equipped 300D. You have to keep the rpm at or above 2000 or it is a slug, but if you do it is fine!
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1961 190Db retired 1968 220D/8 325,000 1983 300D 164,150 |
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