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Old 01-31-2005, 04:33 AM
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Insanely modded 617

I think the pictures speak for themselves.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/valtonen.motorsport/
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:19 AM
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Turbo + Supercharger?

I sure hope he plans on running a Intercooler...a very efficent one..

I presume the s/c for below boost power and the turbo for additional goodies...

I want to see the rest of this project
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:19 AM
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OMG! Just when you thought the Finns had done it all, they pull out yet another cool toy from their bag o' tricks. Wow, a turbo/supercharged OM617...not in my wildest dreams.
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Old 01-31-2005, 08:12 AM
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:14 AM
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:27 AM
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How is he supposed to get to his block drain plug? First 123 I've seen with anti-lock brakes. I would rather have that modification.
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Old 01-31-2005, 10:43 AM
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Amazing amount of work and creativity. But I cannot help wondering with all this progress would have been better placed to upgrading the suspension, improving engine components, filtration and so on. If you need speed the 617 is the wrong car for you....just my humble two cents.
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Actually, I believe that modding a 617 is a worthwhile undertaking; exploring the 617's power envelope is something long overdue. It will be interesting to find out what they're also doing to the IP...who knows, down the road there may be access to some modified torque plates for that unit.
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Old 01-31-2005, 01:26 PM
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You HAVE to respect the workmanship that has gone into this.....I know I do.
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:37 PM
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I think the pictures speak for themselves.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/valtonen.motorsport/
He's got new pics up. Pretty awesome worksmanship!
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:55 PM
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Upon further review...

I am fascinated with the craftsmanship if this mod, but it didn't make sense at first. Upon further review, I think I have an idea of what is going on. Whoever is doing this mod is using the turbocharger (through an intercooler) to boost the supercharger suction pressure. I gathered this from Picture 6 of 29 that shows a horizontal pipe (covered in blue) at the outlet of the intercooler that heads back towards the inlet of the supercharger.
Higher supercharger inlet pressure leads to higher supercharger discharge pressure.
I THINK the device on the top of the intercooler is a normally closed pressure relief valve-but it works for the supercharger discharge pressure AND the turbo outlet (post intercooler) pressure. There is no actual flow between the two pipes at the top of the intercooler-there is probably a blank flange between the two. The pressure relief valve senses supercharger discharge pressure but when it opens, it dumps both the supercharger discharger and post-intercooler turbo press.
So, when the discharge pressure of the supercharger gets too high, the relief valve opens. Not only does this relieve the discharge of the supercharger through the relief valve, but by connecting the discharge of the intercooler (think cold post-turbo/pre-supercharger air) to the relief valve with the pipe on the top drivers side of the intercooler, it also dumps the outlet pressure of the intercooler. This will reduce the inlet pressure of the supercharger. This further lowers the supercharger discharge (read engine intake) pressure to a safe level.
Let's hear your objections.

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Old 03-07-2005, 10:26 PM
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B2 success story....in the making, need some help

Working on my Brother's 1982 300D (mine is better!) pulled the tranny and found the B2 busted. My question is I ordered the B2 and the new type of bushing, but what about the seal??? I found the part number on the DIY, but I couldn't find the part on fastline, and I'd also like to replace the big o ring in there too. I can't find these parts. Also, I am having a hard time pulling out the seal so I can take the old bushing out, I already hurt the seal, so its no good anyway. I can tell that the bushing is lose behind the seal. But I'm still having a hard time getting the seal out of there. I need some help Thanks!
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:27 PM
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Working on my Brother's 1982 300D (mine is better!) pulled the tranny and found the B2 busted. My question is I ordered the B2 and the new type of bushing, but what about the seal??? I found the part number on the DIY, but I couldn't find the part on fastline, and I'd also like to replace the big o ring in there too. I can't find these parts. Also, I am having a hard time pulling out the seal so I can take the old bushing out, I already hurt the seal, so its no good anyway. I can tell that the bushing is lose behind the seal. But I'm still having a hard time getting the seal out of there. I need some help Thanks!
sorry.......
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Old 03-07-2005, 11:02 PM
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must.....have.......video!

test track run? drag strip?

oh yes.
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Spring is coming to Finland

Keep watching the thead http://www.kolumbus.fi/valtonen.motorsport/, new pics are coming regularly, videos and dynocharts when we get rid of the snow.

Some other new diesel developments in thread: http://mersuforum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19899

See page 1 for pics and check the dynocharts ( and pics ) in page 2. Turbo looks quite impressive in size. 482 hp in 190E 2.3 16v original body.
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