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Old 04-29-2005, 03:07 PM
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Older Diesel Inspection...and that moment of terror..

I see all the new sophisticated equipment they are wheeling into inspection stations these days and sometimes I get nervous- will there be a day my 85 300D will come out with a Red Sticker " Rejected".

Or am I just having a bad day?
My Gas Volvo failed this week, but I went home changed the oil (yes this is a legit trick), the idle speed and put in a new fuel pump and I passed half an hour ago..
Will there be day that my 300D fuel pump finally shows too much wear and tear and sticks too much NOx into the air?

I have resolved myself to get smarter about Diesel Emissions and to try to put up a FAQ for helping older BENZ owners to pass inspection..or is this unnecessary--I am sure there is someone out there smarter than me who knows if this necessary...

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Old 04-29-2005, 03:14 PM
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Hey,
If you ever fail you can always mnove here to Florida or somewhere they don't have inspections.

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Old 04-29-2005, 03:16 PM
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You got state inspection stations there? In DC we have 1 inspection depot, and diesels are exempt from the emissions portion. I failed my first inspection for having tinted windows. Wonder what the hell is with that, as you got newer cars going in with factory tint and they all pass. I had to peel mine off and go back through all that mess. In MD you just take your car to a certified inspection joint which is a private service garage or filling station. Then the fraud games begin. VA may be the same.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:20 PM
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About the same in VA as well. No emissions though.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:34 PM
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My old 300d never had a problem with Colorado opacity measurement, and it smoked like a train.
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Old 04-29-2005, 05:48 PM
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NY is the same. No emission check on diesels.

I will say that the SOB's are reducing the limits on gassers. My '89 Dodge has suffered two reductions in the limits over the years. Right now, it's very marginal as to whether it will pass or not. The vehicle is running fine, however, the limits have been reduced to very near what the capability of the vehicle is.

A real PITA. If you can't pass, you have to bribe the shop with a C-note. Otherwise, you need to dump $450.00 into it to prove that you have done everything possible to pass. Then they give you an exemption. Bull$hit.
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Old 04-29-2005, 06:07 PM
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NY is the same. No emission check on diesels.

I will say that the SOB's are reducing the limits on gassers. My '89 Dodge has suffered two reductions in the limits over the years. Right now, it's very marginal as to whether it will pass or not. The vehicle is running fine, however, the limits have been reduced to very near what the capability of the vehicle is.

A real PITA. If you can't pass, you have to bribe the shop with a C-note. Otherwise, you need to dump $450.00 into it to prove that you have done everything possible to pass. Then they give you an exemption. Bull$hit.
I would raise hell with the NTSB or somebody......they can't legaly make the car meet a standard thats stiffer than the year the car was manufactured.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:53 PM
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I would raise hell with the NTSB or somebody......they can't legaly make the car meet a standard thats stiffer than the year the car was manufactured.
When the vehicle was manufactured, the Federal government has a test that is run on a chassis dynamomenter and the vehicle must pass this test or it is not certified.

New York State has come up with its own test with a different cycle (much shorter) and they have their own limits.

It is not feasible to attempt to prove that the NYS test is not valid. You would need reams of data and it would cost you a fortune. Just another deal where the state is trying to make owners of older vehicles get rid of them.

I'm sure the van could pass their test if the engine and the catalyst were brand new. But, it has 120K on the clock and it's no easy task anymore.
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Old 04-29-2005, 07:54 PM
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I would raise hell with the NTSB or somebody......they can't legaly make the car meet a standard thats stiffer than the year the car was manufactured.
You are right, but I know Colorado has tightened it's emission laws for gassers; the thing is they haven't tightened them to the point where a vehicle of that year in good condition would fail. It just puts more burden on the owner to maintain the car.
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Wanna make a gasser pass? I used to get my big block Firebird drag car through CT state emissions testing with this: Turn idle mixture screws in 1/2 turn in parking lot before driving into inspection station. Go to inspection with fuel tank almost empty. Pour an entire case of Drygas (alcohol) in the fuel tank a couple of miles before the inspection station. The Firebird wasn't required to have cats on it but running like this it tested cleaner than late 80's cars. RT
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:13 PM
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Wanna make a gasser pass? I used to get my big block Firebird drag car through CT state emissions testing with this: Turn idle mixture screws in 1/2 turn in parking lot before driving into inspection station. Go to inspection with fuel tank almost empty. Pour an entire case of Drygas (alcohol) in the fuel tank a couple of miles before the inspection station. The Firebird wasn't required to have cats on it but running like this it tested cleaner than late 80's cars. RT

Thats how my dad got his old F150 to pass!

In CT at least diesel emissions are a joke, mine passed with flying colors. Cooler engine and no egr. I guess those egr's are pretty pointless.

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