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Getrag Transmission
Hello guys,
Just wondering, what is a getrag transmission? I've been told it was mated with a 110 engine.... Will this fit a w123 chassis and match a OM617 engine NA. Thanks for the advice! Juan |
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It's just a brand name like Allison. I believe that the 5 speeds that are so rare were made by them.
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Getrags fit both the OM60X and OM61X engines; the 60X version gearbox has a starter wart on the left side of the bellhousing, the 61X version has a wart on the right.
The Getrag 4-speed and 5-speed gearboxs have an alloy case with an integrated bellhousing. The older MBZ 4-speed (and 5-speed) has a cast-iron case with a separate alloy bell housing. Getrag 4-speed for the OM61X engine application: Getrag 5-speed in foreground; cast-iron, MBZ 4-speed tranny in background - both OM61X application:
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Thanks for the advice guys! I asked about the transmission because I found this item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160070494514&rd=1 Will this fits a 617 for sure? I already have the factory 4-speed attached to the 617, so I could use that flywheel and clutch compound. |
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I've seen pictures of the old 5-speed before but, I don't believe they're a Getrag...isn't that an older MBZ tranny? The side case looks exactly like those on the cast-iron, slope top box.
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Maybe from a W116 V8? Check the Russian EPC. The only thing I saw with a number starting with 117 was for a 350SE.
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Get clarification, the tranny in pic has bellhousing on Pass side. Also don't forget that you will have to get the drive shaft shortened and I hear its hard to find a shop willing to touch MB ds.
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That doesn't look anything like either of mine
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I found this thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=112692&highlight=manual+transmission+603
to be useful for finding the right manual for a 603. In any case, the seller updated the side the starter wart is on (passenger side now), but he didn't update his description to say it'll fit a 617 rather than a 60x (which it clearly will not).
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FYI:
5-speed Getrag from a 2.3 16v (note Getrag name between shift arms and posn of starter wart)) Similar Getrag that will fit 616-617-110 engines (note posn of starter wart). Ancient 5-speed (missing bellhousing) found in 114/115 and 116 chassis manuals: OK, a cursory look in the Russian EPC shows the flat-topped, cast iron 5-speed tranny available in the 280 (W114, M110). If that ebay tranny is depicted correctly, tit should fit onto the back of an OM 616 or 617.
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yes, i believe that is what it is. i have one of those in my 280e euro. very very nice tranny. try to get a shifter for it too. they will be hard to find.
tom w
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anyone know the gear ratios in this thing? How sweet would this be in a 300D non-turbo?
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the gear ratios are very similar to the four speed with direct fourth and an overdrive of about .82.
if you need exact ratios i can get them for you. tom w
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Thanks for all your help, I think I'll go after it. I'll keep you guys updated.
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