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Old 03-31-2008, 10:03 PM
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For you the RIV is not too good........because it won't connect to the 616.

so do you think the Mac unit work on the 616 ? 6.35 mm injector line?

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Old 04-01-2008, 12:29 AM
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Yes, I think it would.

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Old 10-22-2010, 01:13 PM
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timing light on a 300 td 1987

I do have the timing light adapter (bluepoint) for seting the timing on my diesel VW's but recent I have on the shop a 300 td 1987 6 cil on line, I am instaling the IP with the metod of A B lights but I wonder What will be the runing inyection time for this Bens? can any body help me? please...
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:45 PM
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libbybapa, where are you?
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:48 PM
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I do have the timing light adapter (bluepoint) for seting the timing on my diesel VW's but recent I have on the shop a 300 td 1987 6 cil on line, I am instaling the IP with the metod of A B lights but I wonder What will be the runing inyection time for this Bens? can any body help me? please...
Since you have both devices, it would be advantageous for you to make this determination. Set the 603 to 15° ATDC with the A-B lights. Then, connect the pulse unit to the #1 line and start the engine. See what you get. I'm going to guess that it's about 14° BTDC at idle............similar to the 617.
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:47 PM
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If you do use the sensor method. Try to get the advance reading at say three thousand rpm. We have never discussed the normal advance on these engines or know what it is. I have always wondered if the mechanical advance units springs change tension with age.

I dropped an email to the famous mercedes engine rebuilder a year or so ago asking them if they reconditioned the mechanical advance mechanisim with each total rebuild or at least checked it with no responce forthcoming.

When checking the timing on older gas mercedes it was verified at about three thousand as a standard timing approach on those cars. It is actually fairly easy to read at thiose rpms.. Will your unit fire properly at that speed I wonder.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:18 PM
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Hello everyone just found this thread after having issues with my Diesel Pulse Adaptor.

The piezo sensor is connected to the fuel line on no1 cyclinder and LED is flashing but when i connected the timing light to the inductive pick up , Nothing ?

any idea's and has anybody had the same issues ?

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Old 03-23-2011, 12:00 AM
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There are instructions on how to hook up the pulse adapter, but no specific guide on timing any specific engines. It's value lies in very accurately determining the start of injection on almost any diesel engine. To time a specific engine whose manufacturer does not "support" this method, you need to get a baseline reading (such as what Brian Carlton presented) by timing using the recommended method and then installing the pulse adapter and getting a baseline reading. Then that baseline reading can be used the next time.

Brian Carlton, I assume you set the idle speed accurately prior to the readings you took and that the reading was taken at idle? Just checking.

Andrew
The part in Red is the issue with all of the similar Pulse timers that clamp on the Fuel Injection Lines.
From the threads I have read people believe or hope that they can buy on clamp it on and set the timing, when in fact the have to set the timing by some other method first in order to "Calibrate" their unit to the Engine they are presently working on.
This means that the Pulse Timer is not going to be more accurate that what ever method you used to "Calibrate" it.

If you put your unit on a different Engine Model or a different make of Engine you need to start over again.

A Pulse Timer is great if you have more then one of the same Vehicle or are doing a lot of timing in a Shop where you work. But, for someone like myself with one Car that needs to be timed it would be more of a expensive gadget that would not get used often.
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Old 03-23-2011, 12:07 AM
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Hello everyone just found this thread after having issues with my Diesel Pulse Adaptor.

The piezo sensor is connected to the fuel line on no1 cyclinder and LED is flashing but when i connected the timing light to the inductive pick up , Nothing ?

any idea's and has anybody had the same issues ?

many thanks

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If the maker is still in business you should contact them.
To the right middle this site has what appears to be 2 PDFs of Instructions:
http://www.gunson.co.uk/item.aspx?item=5139&%3Bcat=662

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