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Diesel911 · #16 08-13-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Simpler=Better

My thoery: Diesels run "smoother&quieter" while on ATF/SVO/Motor oil because these fuels are more viscous than diesel, dampening the mechanical injection system. The fuels also burn slower than diesel, resulting in a "softer" firing cycle.

Just my theory, no for or against opinions on SVO VS diesel.

I do not know about quieting that Diesel Knock but when I was looking at aricles on burning used Engine Oil mixed with Diesel Fuel; one said that there is more energy in the Engine Oil.
I do not recall what they said concerning the Cetane rating.

Diesel911 · #17 08-13-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GregoryV022

has anyone ever fogged their diesel MB.

its a marine term. don't exactly know what it means, but my buddy says it works wonders on his diesel boat. don't know the make or model

I did a quick search on "Fogging". What I found is that it is an Engine Preservation technique to keep things lubed an preserved (helps prevent rust) while the Engine is not used.
Amsoil even sells "Fogging Oil" in a spray can.

This is a real problem as Folks who only take there boat out for a ride ounce a month and let the Engeine sit without running it are the ones who indeed have a lot of problems with their Engines. More so if it is a Boat that sits in the Marina surrounded by all that damp air.

I guess that same would apply to a Snowmobile or any other Engine you put up for a long time.

One person said it was not a good thing to do to Indirect Injection Diesel Engines that it could cause damage if ignited.
Here is an article
http://www.ehow.com/about_4675032_fogging-oil.html

GregoryV022 · #18 08-13-2009, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Diesel911

I did a quick search on "Fogging". What I found is that it is an Engine Preservation technique to keep things lubed an preserved (helps prevent rust) while the Engine is not used.
Amsoil even sells "Fogging Oil" in a spray can.

This is a real problem as Folks who only take there boat out for a ride ounce a month and let the Engeine sit without running it are the ones who indeed have a lot of problems with their Engines. More so if it is a Boat that sits in the Marina surrounded by all that damp air.

I guess that same would apply to a Snowmobile or any other Engine you put up for a long time.

One person said it was not a good thing to do to Indirect Injection Diesel Engines that it could cause damage if ignited.
Here is an article
http://www.ehow.com/about_4675032_fogging-oil.html

well if i was to put my diesel away for winter, it would be a good idea right??

Oldwolf · #19 08-13-2009, 09:30 AM

The two-stroke oil sounds interesting. Do you guys recommend a specific brand, preferably one I can pick up at Walmart?

Oldwolf · #20 08-13-2009, 09:33 AM

Have you guys read this study yet?

The Diesel Place

piccolovic · #21 08-13-2009, 10:04 AM

for my N-14 Cummins engine, I just buy the gallons at Walmart.

Although I have not noticed any quieting or increase of mileage on my truck from ATF, I have noticed quieting on my car when I apply it to the fuel tank.

compress ignite · #22 08-13-2009, 03:39 PM

An engine (Marine Two Stroke Outboard) is performed as a preventative for/before "Winter Layup"
[The Two stroke's ONLY Lubricant is provided in the
Gasoline/Oil mix...and long periods of disuse "Dry" out the Piston/Cylinder system,along with the Rings.]
"Fogging" a four stroke Marine Diesel is not necessary...
In fact you'd be better served removing the Glow Plugs/Injectors and squirting
into the cylinders some Synthetic Marine Rated Four Stroke Oil.(teaspoonful)
(Replace the Glow Plugs/Injectors)
Leave a RED rag tied to the Steering Wheel to remind yourself to rotate the
engine with the Starter AND the Fuel Shutoff Enabled,until you get Oil Pressure,
in the Spring.

rrgrassi · #23 08-13-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by piccolovic

for my N-14 Cummins engine, I just buy the gallons at Walmart.

Although I have not noticed any quieting or increase of mileage on my truck from ATF, I have noticed quieting on my car when I apply it to the fuel tank.

ATF is red, and if you get an EPA dip, you can get false positive fined for using off road diesel.

Diesel911 · #24 08-13-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rrgrassi

ATF is red, and if you get an EPA dip, you can get false positive fined for using off road diesel.

Some brands of 2-stroke Oil are also Red.

rrgrassi · #25 08-13-2009, 04:42 PM

I guess avoid anything that has red dye in it.

Shorebilly · #26 08-13-2009, 06:40 PM

Folks,

I use Marvel Mystry Oil.....yes it's red, but you don't use all that much.......seems to serve the same purpose as y'all are gettin' with 2 stroke oil.......

I got into the habit of using MMO, back when the went to unleaded gasoline......in my flathead Ford hopped up/hot rod motor.....just use as directed.....everything I got has MMO in it......put it in my jerry cans when I fill 'em up.....

SB

Oldwolf · #27 08-14-2009, 10:26 AM

I just added Exxon Superflow TCW3 to my fuel when I filled up today. I went with a 200:1 ratio shown in the article I posted the link to.

Doktor Bert · #28 08-18-2009, 09:45 AM

I am now on my fourth tank of fuel keeping engine rpm's at 3000 or less. Running 44 psi (cold) in the tires, I have netted 30.6, 30.2, 30.4 and 30.0 mpg respectively.

My daily commute is about 58 miles one way and totally flat, except for 3 overpasses...Robert

Oldwolf · #29 08-18-2009, 11:10 AM

Some of the Cummings diesel pick up guys are using 1 oz per gallon. That would mean I need 18 oz per tank. Last filling I added 12 oz. One warmed up the engine is definitely quieter. Maybe I'll put the 1oz/gallon amount in next filling and see how the engine runs.

Anyone noticing mpg changes, either up or down? Doesn't seem that such a small amount of 2 stroke oil should cause much mpg change at all.

Doktor Bert · #30 08-18-2009, 07:03 PM

Wolf,

I'm not sure about mpg, but the engine runs both cooler and quieter. I think my bump past the 30 mpg mark is more a result of kepping the rpm/upm under 3,000 than anything else...Robert