Help! My 240D grinds loudly when I try to shift into Reverse. Yes, I am holding the clutch down. Car's had this problem ever since I bought it, but it's gotten progressively worse to the point it makes me cringe to put it in Reverse. Shifting into any of the forward gears feels fine, mo grinding or anything.

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

edit: it appears that if I put a little throttle in before shifting, it lessens the amount of grinding going into Reverse. Once I'm in reverse, if I keep the clutch down, I can shift in and out of Reverse w/o any grinding.

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

Try putting the transmission in a forward gear first, then go to reverse. the forward gears have synchronizers to align the gears so they don`t grind when shifting. by doing this, it will stop the gears from turning, then going into reverse it should be smooth.

mine will grind also if I just slam it gear w/o waiting a second or two.

reverse does not have synchro`s.

If the fingers (springs) on the pressure plate get weak, then the clutch won`t fully disingage and can cause problem getting into gear.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Thanks Charlie. It grinds a LOT less than usual with your suggestion. Still trying to troubleshoot. If the springs are weak, wouldn't that cause the same non-full disengaging problem going into the forward gears?

Worthy of mention is that my clutch take-up seems to have changed location lately- it is now close to the point of the clutch being pushed all the way in. Another point to mention is this is my first stick shift car. Am thinking new clutch, but not sure!

What would your advice be to do/course of troubleshooting?

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

WAIT a minute-- I think the Springs issue is spot on. It is hard to move the shifter through the gates to my other gears, and a tiny grind sometimes occurs. I think it's new clutch time.

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

Make sure your clutch hydraulics are up to the job as well.

Try pumping the clutch a few times before putting it into reverse. If that stops the grinding, there's a problem in the clutch hydraulics.

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1977 300d 70k--sold 08
1985 300TD 185k+
1984 307d 126k--sold 8/03
1985 409d 65k--sold 06
1984 300SD 315k--daughter's car
1979 300SD 122k--sold 2/11
1999 Fuso FG Expedition Camper
1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Pumping the clutch prior to shifting has no difference on any of the gears. Exact same as before.

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

What about holding the clutch for 5-10 full, by-the-watch seconds before attempting to move into R?

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL

Same result.

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

Here is the tool you need to check the clutch lining for wear.

http://www.startekinfo.de/etools/content/tool.jsp?toolno=115%20589%2007%2023%2000

this thread shows where to place the tool in the cut out in the black gasket.
It fits between the slave cylinder and the transmission.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=215891

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Just wondering if you know anything about its prior history regarding the clutch?? If the clutch had been replaced in the past, and if the lay-shaft coming out of the transmission was not exactly centered in the flywheel, there is the possibility that even with the clutch depressed, the transmission gears would still be turning. This would not be too much of a problem with gears with syncros, but would create an issue with reverse gear.

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96 E300d

Iono. I believe the P.O. had it replaced.

I just had my mechanic diagnose the issue (zip! flamesuit on). He works a lot on these cars. He says the clutch is indeed out; needs new Pressure Plate, Clutch Disc, and Clutch Pilot Bearing, and Flywheel. Guess who's gonna learn how to change a Clutch.. yep...

Anyone know where to get a flywheel for less than $400? Is Expensive!! Other suggestions?

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi

Needs a flywheel?? Did he say why? Maybe he meant throw out bearing

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1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"

Didn't say and I didn't ask.

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1982 240D 4spd, 327,000mi