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Old 08-11-2010, 11:43 PM
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Question 1985 300D - Coil Springs

Hello All!

I'm in the process of replacing the coil springs and shocks.

I bought a spring compression tool by ZDMAK for about $200.00.

On the front coil springs the top of the tool doesn't fit down through the hole in the engine compartment. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm planning on trying to use a metal file to make the hole bigger so the tool will fit in it. I'm not sure if it will work but it's the only option I can think of.

Maybe somebody on here as some thoughts.

I haven't tried to use the tool on the rear springs yet. I wonder if I'll have the same problem back there....?

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Old 08-12-2010, 01:39 AM
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Yes, there has been some reports of the Aftermarket Coil Spring Compressors not fitting through that hole.
And, if you indend to use it the hole has to be enlarged.

Some where there are posts and threads on that.
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:25 AM
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have you thought about using a different tool?
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Old 08-12-2010, 02:40 AM
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I want to use a tool with the two discs so I can safely remove the springs.

I got this tool thinking it would work but it's just a hair too big, even though it's supposed to work on a w123.

Has anyone had an experience trying to enlarge the holes at the top of the coil springs?? I wonder if a metal file will be strong enough.....?
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:31 AM
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A good sharp round file will do the job. If you have a hole enlarging bit for a drill, you could use that
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:42 AM
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Yes I had to enlarge the holes on my W123 300D... but you'll notice that it is only the lower - or inner bit of metal - that needs to be altered. I used a round file, but, other people have reported using a Dremmel...

After altering the hole don't forget to stick something like POR15 over the bare metal. (Stick some grease on it at the very least)
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X2 as Army said.

I have the same compressor. It works in the 126 ok, because the hole is larger.
On the w123 it is the inner piece of sheet metal that causes the problem.

Start fileing it down, and use the big end of the shaft for a fit until it goes in with some wiggle room. then POR the edge to seal it good.
I used a rasp bit that fit into my 3/8 drill, and then finished up with a 1/2 round file to smooth it down.

It`s really a lot of fun at PNP with just a file .

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Has anyone ever notified the Tool Company about the problem and recieved a response from them?
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I have a rounded metal file that seems to be working...it's slow going but cheaper than buying a dremel. Hopefully I will have filed enough by tomorrow to install the new springs.
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:02 PM
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all 85 are the same vac, same as 84.
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:17 PM
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I used this die grinder from Harbor Freight:

http://www.harborfreight.com/electric-die-grinder-with-long-shaft-44141.html

It's around $30 and a few dollars for the bits or, if you have an air compressor, you can pick up the pneumatic version for aobut $10, I think.

Grind it out till you can slip it in, making sure the ground out diameter is a little bigger than the compressor shaft will make it easier on you when you go to remove it.

Once you have the shaft down in there, you'll need a long extension (or a couple connnected) to reach down in and wrench at it to tighten it up. Get as many coils between your plates as possible. The plates don't alway just slide right in either, sometimes you have to use mallet to band them in there.

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