timing chain master link clip style 616 - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

vox_incognita · #16 04-18-2011, 06:45 PM

Page 37:
http://www.klann-online.de/Englisch/Produkte/Kapitel_6.4_low.pdf

...also:
OM601;602;603:
http://aftersales.specialtoolbase.mercedes-benz.com/util/swzanzeige_detail.php?swzid=707

OM604;605;606:
http://aftersales.specialtoolbase.mercedes-benz.com/util/swzanzeige_detail.php?swzid=708

Beagle · #17 04-18-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

The factory tool was discontinued many years ago.

And really quite unnecessary too - just another of MB's superfluous extravagances

. As long as the assistant holding tension keeps his hand pressed firmly around the cam sprocket as you roll it in, its a piece of cake. The job just needs careful forethought and planning.

86-300sdl · #18 04-18-2011, 11:02 PM

Samboy...

I have a clip type link you may have. I'll mail it to you if ya PM your address. I used it to attach the old chain to the new one during install only. Then used the "press fit" link to connect the two ends of the new chain.

I just rolled one on my 603. No helpers. I was afraid "my helpers" were a bit clueless about jumping a tooth and would eventualy get distracted and drop tension. I used zip ties (as in about fourty) to keep both the new and the old chain tight to the cam sprocket. Just inched my way around. took about 45 minutes.

leathermang · #19 04-18-2011, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beagle

... The job just needs careful forethought and planning.

So let me get this straight... no alcohol , bathroom or smoke breaks half way through the procedure ?

86-300sdl · #20 04-19-2011, 12:16 AM

leathermang,

I repeat...zip ties. A guy can go for martinis and wait till morning to get after it again. LOL

leathermang · #21 04-19-2011, 12:23 AM

I was going by this :
"... As long as the assistant holding tension keeps his hand pressed firmly around the cam sprocket as you roll it in, its a piece of cake. "--Beagle

If you use zipties.... does that eliminate the need to maintain tension on the chain as it is rolled in ?

86-300sdl · #22 04-19-2011, 12:38 AM

I was being light hearted with the "repeat comment"...sorry

Re "tension requirement"
Yea by keeping both ends of the chain (portions of the old and new) on the sprocket from the get go you don't have to worry about the tension. I started by using two zips on either side of the link I was removing to split the chain. Kind of works like the rail cap shown in Roy's links. Just keep adding one tie to the passenger side turn the crank a few links and cut the driver's side zip as it heads off the sprocket and on toward the timing gear...and repeat until both ends of the new chain are zip tied to the top of the sprocket...then drop in the new link and press it on.

Hope that makes sense...have more photos if it would help!

whunter · #23 04-19-2011, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang

If you use zipties.... does that eliminate the need to maintain tension on the chain as it is rolled in ?

Correct, just go slow...

leathermang · #24 04-19-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by robcarsonjr

I was being light hearted with the "repeat comment"...sorry

Re "tension requirement"
Yea by keeping both ends of the chain (portions of the old and new) on the sprocket from the get go you don't have to worry about the tension. I started by using two zips on either side of the link I was removing to split the chain. Kind of works like the rail cap shown in Roy's links. Just keep adding one tie to the passenger side turn the crank a few links and cut the driver's side zip as it heads off the sprocket and on toward the timing gear...and repeat until both ends of the new chain are zip tied to the top of the sprocket...then drop in the new link and press it on.

Hope that makes sense...have more photos if it would help!

LOL, I repeat, not a problem...
Boy that sounds tedious .... I think I will make that rail cap tool because my visualization of the situation seems to need constant tension on the old end going out.... Several have said that there is not room for the chain to fall and wind up a tooth off... but the FSM ( and you know how I am about it ) says to keep constant tension on the chain... I was planning on using a pulley to the ceiling with a weight on it for that...
How long did it take using the zip ties...and how many did you use ?

leathermang · #25 04-19-2011, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter

Correct, just go slow...

Isn't that a redundant and unnecessary instruction once one has chosen zip ties ?
LOLOL

whunter · #26 04-19-2011, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang

How long did it take using the zip ties...and how many did you use ?

About an hour (open to close) + forty zip ties..

leathermang · #27 04-19-2011, 11:52 AM

I guess that is not TOO bad....

Do you consider that the absolute most secure method ?

I was really directing that question about the time to Robcarson because I ASSUMED you did NOT use the ties...

whunter · #28 04-19-2011, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang

I guess that is not TOO bad....

Do you consider that the absolute most secure method ?

I was really directing that question about the time to Robcarson because I ASSUMED you did NOT use the ties...

The tool is better if you are working alone.

The zip ties are faster with a trusted partner.