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Old 07-13-2011, 09:27 PM
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$69 Fuel Saving Chip???

Can this really be put on an '83 300D??? They list my car, but I didn't know I had anything resembling an ECM. I know that these chips have successfully been put on large trucks and Cummins (Dodge Ram Pickup) truck, but all of the trucks that I'm familiar with that have the fuel saving chips, have complicated ECMs.

Has anyone ever used one of these chips, on an '83 era 300D? And if so, was it successful in increasing mileage 4 - 8 mpg?
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:29 PM
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NO.

do you have a link to this crazy ad?
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:31 PM
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Oh forgot to mention

The chip is advertised through this site above the threads. The ad is:


http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l&ai=Bt91wvEMeTrmfF8zLsQfwuJi-DM7XqrcCpp_XoBrAjbcBoLMjEAIYAiDryI0CKAM4AFD-9LJ6YMnOqIfco_AQoAGSzundA7IBEnd3dy5wZWFjaHBhcnRzLmNvbboBCTcyOHg5MF9hc8gBAdoBO2h0dHA6Ly93d3cucGVhY2hw YXJ0cy5jb20vc2hvcGZvcnVtL3Nob3d0aHJlYWQucGhwP3Q9MzAxODc0qAMByAMX6APUBugDvwH1AwABAMA&num=2&sig=AGiWqtzB4aUairXmfFYeZTUJfZfs2ItaFw&client=ca-pub-4412882508670117&adurl=http://www.GFChips.com/mercedes300d.aspx&nm=24
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:32 PM
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Can't be done

Your 83 uses an all mechanical injection system there is no interaction with anything electronic except for sensors which measure temps for the temp gage or fan switches and such. Cheers Dan
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:35 PM
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You have no place to plug it !!!

It may work on a gasser ~ 280 E/SE/CE
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:39 PM
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Plug it?

Have you read which sensor it plugs into? Check out the ad.
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:44 PM
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... no.
still no.
it's always going to be no.
I don't care if you plug it into a flux capacitor... it's not going to affect ANYTHING on the 82-84 300D, I doubt it would do anything to an 85-93D...
PERHAPS if it came with an electronic IP, and a computer controlled timing setup... several thousand dollars of equipment it may effect mileage...
aside from that...
NO.

notice in the $ saved box it states figures are compared to the 12MPG of the car...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:54 PM
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Your car doesn't have an IAT (intake air temperature?) sensor. Gasser 280s (M110) don't have an IAT sensor either.

For crying out loud, they list it as compatible with a GM EV1. That confirms they're idiots.

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:15 PM
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Your car doesn't have an IAT (intake air temperature?) sensor. Gasser 280s (M110) don't have an IAT sensor either.

For crying out loud, they list it as compatible with a GM EV1. That confirms they're idiots.

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Old 07-13-2011, 10:02 PM
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Obviously they will list every car ever made, that makes sure that they can get as many people to buy it as possible.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:09 PM
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My 1980 300SD has a single computer which runs the climate control system. Thank God it can't adjust my engine
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:34 PM
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My 1980 300SD has a single computer which runs the climate control system. Thank God it can't adjust my engine
Thats not really a computer, its more or less a sensor/control board. A computer has a microprocessor chip of some sort. None to be found in a Klima.
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Old 07-13-2011, 10:47 PM
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I clicked on 240D. WOW!!!! I can gain up to 60HP. that would be 127 total HP . Who need a turbo on their 240 when all we need is this little electronic Gizmo.

Plus I`ll have money just falling out of my pockets.


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I clicked on 240D. WOW!!!! I can gain up to 60HP. that would be 127 total HP . Who need a turbo on their 240 when all we need is this little electronic Gizmo.

Plus I`ll have money just falling out of my pockets.


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Old 07-14-2011, 01:42 AM
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I clicked on 240D. WOW!!!! I can gain up to 60HP. that would be 127 total HP . Who need a turbo on their 240 when all we need is this little electronic Gizmo.

Plus I`ll have money just falling out of my pockets.


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They are probably talking about rocking horses !!

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1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving
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