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Old 07-30-2011, 02:27 PM
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How did the 95 E300 that was in Duluth look? I've owned a 92 or 93 300D in addition to now owning the 95 E300. I believe I like the '95 E300 the best.

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Old 07-30-2011, 02:30 PM
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Yeah, I think you are correct. My first choice right now would be a 300D 2.5 Turbo. One question though: Which of these cars has the best visibility with the least blind spots?
Minimal blind spots in any mercedes except a convettible or less so a coupe.
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:36 PM
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Whatever you buy, just buy one from one of these nuts on here Replacing old rubber parts, i.e. ball joints, mounts, etc is expensive. You can end up putting more money into one than it is worth. So, buy one from one of these guys who has already done all of that stuff!

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Old 07-30-2011, 02:52 PM
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Whatever you buy, just buy one from one of these nuts on here Replacing old rubber parts, i.e. ball joints, mounts, etc is expensive. You can end up putting more money into one than it is worth. So, buy one from one of these guys who has already done all of that stuff!
Sounds like a plan, but first I must find someone willing to give up their car, which may or may not be easy
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:53 PM
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How did the 95 E300 that was in Duluth look? I've owned a 92 or 93 300D in addition to now owning the 95 E300. I believe I like the '95 E300 the best.
I saw it on craigslist and it looks real nice. So what do you think is better about the 95?
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:55 PM
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I like the fuel economy and the way it drives out at 80+ on the interstate.
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Old 07-30-2011, 02:59 PM
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I like the fuel economy and the way it drives out at 80+ on the interstate.
But how is it in terms of acceleration/power compared to the 2.5 Turbo?
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Old 07-30-2011, 03:04 PM
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100 miles round trip. not a very exciting drive up maryland's southern peninsula to washington. i commuted my final year in college 100 miles a day - all back rounds with a supercharged vr6 gti, man i miss that drive!
A back-roads drive with that car does sound like fun (except for the summer heat/humidity and the winter storms) but two hours a day is still 1+ year of your life in a 20-year career. Nonetheless, how you spend your time is none of my business. My longest commute in 25 years was 7 miles round trip, just one of the many reasons that allowed me to retire at the age of 50.

OTOH, on weekends I had a favorite 250-mile route that I often did on my BMW motorcycle (so I'm guilty too) but that was in the days of cheap gasoline. (Pardon my old-fart whining about the "good old days").

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Old 07-30-2011, 04:43 PM
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A back-roads drive with that car does sound like fun (except for the summer heat/humidity and the winter storms) but two hours a day is still 1+ year of your life in a 20-year career.
A lot of people in the area I live in are in a "drive 'till you qualify for the mortgage" situation. It's a question of how much time you want to trade off for a more affordable mortgage or rent payment -- plus how much you value living somewhere quiet and hassle-free. I know someone who moved out of Seattle recently because he couldn't deal with the noise and the drug dealers on his front lawn anymore.
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Yeah, I think you are correct. My first choice right now would be a 300D 2.5 Turbo. One question though: Which of these cars has the best visibility with the least blind spots?
the 124 has a better driving position over my 210. you feel like your sitting "in" the '87 rather than sitting "on" in my '98. now that i think about it for me, a 5'8" chassis, the driving position leaves a lot to be desired in my 210. the seats are far better in 124 and my 18 month old son could peek out the windows much better in the 124. that said my wife hated to ride in that car, she said it was very drab, but she hated all of my diesels. the factory radio positioning sucks in the 124, you nearly have to take your eyes off the road to change a station. i don't mean to bash the 210, i love mine to death but mercedes nailed the 124 in my opinion as far as ergonomics go and nearly everything else.

i'd have no problems with a 2.5 124!. i think the face lifted '95 300d looks incredible but i'm not wild about that engine, though it's owners don't complain nearly as much as other models, mine included. the turbo lag and is a lot of the character in diesel mercs.
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Old 07-30-2011, 05:40 PM
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As far as the turbo 2.5 versus the non turbo 3.0 it is six of one, half dozen of another. I guess i like the non turbo because the engine compartment is a little more roomy allowing for more space to work.
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:13 PM
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the 124 has a better driving position over my 210. you feel like your sitting "in" the '87 rather than sitting "on" in my '98. now that i think about it for me, a 5'8" chassis, the driving position leaves a lot to be desired in my 210. the seats are far better in 124 and my 18 month old son could peek out the windows much better in the 124. that said my wife hated to ride in that car, she said it was very drab, but she hated all of my diesels.
Our '96 E300D (W210, OM606NA) even has the rare/expensive pneumatic seat option but I still prefer sitting in my 124 and it doesn't even have the later-model foam corner bolsters (but I'm skinny, a big person might find them very nice).

The 210 also has a stiffer suspension; perhaps the market demanded it but I prefer the softer ride of the 124. The interior of the later 124s is much less "drab," I think. With a little modifying, I think I'd like a 1995 E300D with an OM603 engine, especially if the simpler electronics of the older car could be retrofitted.

The NA I-6 diesel does indeed leave a lot of working room in the engine compartment; you can almost "walk around" in there.

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i've gotta disagree in a major way about blindspots in these old Benzes. all of the American trucks and vans (and most cars) and japanese (and even korean!) cars i've driven have better visibility than these things. my 30 ft bus with absolutely piss-poor mirrors only has one blindspot - the huge one right behind ya!

i've driven 3 different w126's and a w201 and all of themhave horrible mirrors. i love these cars, but they definitely leave something to be desired in that department. i'm used to driving large, difficult vehicles with sometimes less than optimal equipment in the same setting, but i've managed to miss cars even when shoulder-checking in these things and had a near-miss. they're not the greatest to parallel park either!

but really... in an automobile this fine they should know to get out of my way. *throws driving scarf over shoulder & toots horn like a scholar*
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Our '96 E300D (W210, OM606NA) even has the rare/expensive pneumatic seat option but I still prefer sitting in my 124 and it doesn't even have the later-model foam corner bolsters (but I'm skinny, a big person might find them very nice).

The 210 also has a stiffer suspension; perhaps the market demanded it but I prefer the softer ride of the 124. The interior of the later 124s is much less "drab," I think. With a little modifying, I think I'd like a 1995 E300D with an OM603 engine, especially if the simpler electronics of the older car could be retrofitted.

The NA I-6 diesel does indeed leave a lot of working room in the engine compartment; you can almost "walk around" in there.

Jeremy
i'm glad two 210 owners car agree on the finer points of the 124. i doubt i'll part ways with my 210 but i sincerely miss the reassuring feel of a 124 in my fleet. anyone have a '87 wagon they want gone?

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Old 07-30-2011, 11:35 PM
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I think I'd like a 1995 E300D with an OM603 engine, especially if the simpler electronics of the older car could be retrofitted.

The NA I-6 diesel does indeed leave a lot of working room in the engine compartment; you can almost "walk around" in there.
Jeremy, what car have you been looking at? Maybe if you've been working on a Mini it looks roomy, but that is one big engine shoehorned in there. It hits the firewall at the back, and there's about an inch and a half to the radiator in the front, not to mention how everything exterior to the block is Tetrised in.
Look under the hood of a W123 and tell me the E300D's engine bay is "roomy".

I'm also mystified as to why you'd want to ditch the bulletproof DOHC 24V 606 for the less-reliable SOHC 12V 603.

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