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wordmanjay 11-25-2011 03:34 PM

80 240D My rear shock dropped through rust!
 
Recently replaced rear shocks.
The mount where the bottom of the shock attaches rusted through- it obviously couldn't handle the firmer ride :o)
I don't know the name of the part and I can't get pics to load here for some reason.

The rusted out part has everything mounted to it- bottom of the shock, spring...and the rotor and parts are attached.
Man could I use a diagram of all of those parts- anybody got a resource?

Thanks in advance.

Brian Carlton 11-25-2011 03:39 PM

Of course, you leave the reader to simply guess.............because you don't bother to put a vehicle year and model in the post............although the posting guidelines clearly indicate that you are strongly encouraged to do so.

Well...........I'm going to guess that you need a new trailing arm.

Best garnered from a junkyard..............a new one is probably worth more than the car........:eek:

wordmanjay 11-25-2011 03:44 PM

Sorry- it's an 80 240D.

I've got what appears to be a good looking one on my parts car- that's an 81 300D. Will those parts swap?

Thanks.

wordmanjay 11-25-2011 03:47 PM

Yes, it's the trailing arm- thanks for the info.

Stretch 11-25-2011 03:48 PM

Yes same part - also the first generation W126 steel trailing arms swap too

leathermang 11-25-2011 03:56 PM

I am thinking a general inspection of the entire car is in order NOW.....
A Safety Inspection.... for rust obviously .... in critical areas....

layback40 11-25-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang (Post 2835174)
I am thinking a general inspection of the entire car is in order NOW.....
A Safety Inspection.... for rust obviously .... in critical areas....

X2
With winter approaching fast, the rust season is about for you.
You are lucky it was only the shock mount that broke.

mccauleybil 11-25-2011 08:32 PM

Had a similar failure in my 82 300sd last summer. Sheared a bolt holding the shock to trailing arm. Drove to Sears for an easy out and the unsupported side of the shock torqued the other side off. A clever welder fashioned a new saddle for $45 and welded it into my trailing arm. Glad for the fix without having to remove the trailing at

kerry 11-25-2011 08:40 PM

I was thinking the same thing. A welder may be in order.

vstech 11-25-2011 09:15 PM

glad you have a parts car.
I've got a stack of good trailing arms in my garage now...

charmalu 11-26-2011 04:47 AM

Check over those trailing arms real close. here is a couple threads where one broke.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2455666-post1.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2473382-post1.html

Charlie

wordmanjay 11-28-2011 02:30 PM

Gonna have my mechanic look at welding a "saddle" tonite- this will be a short-term fix.
I want to replace both the rear trailing arms, since they both look rusty.
I have two on my parts car that I'd like to attempt to remove myself.
Is there a resource/step-by-step online to use?
The spring is the part that scares me- I know this must be done properly with the proper tools.
Please advise- please share pics/resources-
ps. the rest of the car doesn't have to stay in one piece, so if there's short cuts involving a sawzall or torch, let me know.

Also- what other parts/ seals/ rubber pieces should I replace/inspect/service while I have both trailing arms off?

Thanks in advance.
Jay
Cleveland Rust Zone

vstech 11-28-2011 02:35 PM

no problem to take out the rear trailing arms without special tools, the springs are not super dangerous at all in the rear.

just jack up the car, support the diff, and both trailing arms, disconnect all the shocks, caliper etc, then unbolt the diff mount 13mm bolts from the vehicle, then lower the trailing arm, and the springs fall out. remove the remaining bolts from the arms, and reverse with the replacements. now's a good time to replace the subframe mounts if they look bad. YOU WILL NEED A 5' CHEATER BAR TO REMOVE THE BOLT THROUGH THE SUBFRAME MOUNTS!!!

Stretch 11-28-2011 02:40 PM

Loads of 'em here

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/266324-w123-wagon-rear-trailing-arm-bushings-r-r.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297546-updated-version-whiskeydan-w123-trailing-arm-bushing-tool.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/300966-w126-trailing-arm-rear-lower-control-arm.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/303427-w126-trailing-arm-rear-lower-control-arm-rebuilt-replacement.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/281011-w126-cracked-trailing-arm-can-safely-welded.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/276507-rear-subframe-removal-bushing-replacement.html

Don't worry too too much about the rear springs you can get them out WITH CARE with out a spring compressor - HOWEVER as you've got some rust issues I recommend that you do borrow / hire / buy a proper internal spring compressor just in case. The front springs on a W123 are the "killers".

wordmanjay 11-28-2011 04:29 PM

I've taken two bolts off that are on the back of the caliper- one regular one, one with the knob on the end.....

what else to get the caliper off?

whunter 11-28-2011 04:45 PM

Related data
 
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair-restoration/287610-extreme-fugly-trailing-arm-pictures.html#post2836838

vstech 11-28-2011 05:20 PM

the caliper is bolted onto the spindle near the center of the trailing arm with two 17 or 19mm bolts... there should not be any knob on them, just flat bolt heads.

whunter 11-28-2011 06:03 PM

Umm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wordmanjay (Post 2836824)
I've taken two bolts off that are on the back of the caliper- one regular one, one with the knob on the end.....

what else to get the caliper off?

I think his rear sway bar link is broken, and he removed the remains of the lower ball.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/240945-plastic-sway-bar-end-link.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2769385-post6.html




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vstech 11-28-2011 06:40 PM

yeah, but that would not be connected to the caliper... the caliper is on the other side. in the pics Whunter just provided, see the two round bolt holes? that's where the caliper connects.

charmalu 11-29-2011 12:13 AM

A 5ft cheater bar? Yikes!!!! maybe back east you do. out West, we just use a 18in breaker bar & or a 1/2 inch ratchet to break the 50Cal bolt loose. :D

Those are some good threads Army posted.

Here is what I wrote on removing the rear suspension.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2519382-post48.html

It seems harder to do the job reading through the posts, than actually doing it.
afterward you will say, "That was a piece of cake". ;)

Charlie

wordmanjay 11-29-2011 12:11 PM

yes- that's where the sway bar attaches- the bolt with the knob on the end-

wordmanjay 11-29-2011 01:25 PM

Wow- just looked through the links you gave me.
This forum is awesome.
I'll probably have to post as I'm doing it- whenever I do do it- hopefully soon.

Any advice on how to get pics to post here? It would really help.
I've never had any luck at uploading pics.

Stretch 11-29-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wordmanjay (Post 2837449)
Wow- just looked through the links you gave me.
This forum is awesome.
I'll probably have to post as I'm doing it- whenever I do do it- hopefully soon.

Any advice on how to get pics to post here? It would really help.
I've never had any luck at uploading pics.

When you clock on post reply you'll see a box for your text.

Scroll down the page a bit until you see Additional options - there is an orange button on the left called "Manage attachments".

You then get a pop up window (so you might get grief from your browser - allow pop ups from peachparts.com)

Then click on the browse button to find the file - sorry this is as far as I can help - I have no idea where you put the pictures!

whunter 11-29-2011 01:52 PM

Answer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wordmanjay (Post 2837449)
Wow- just looked through the links you gave me.
This forum is awesome.
I'll probably have to post as I'm doing it- whenever I do do it- hopefully soon.

Any advice on how to get pics to post here? It would really help.
I've never had any luck at uploading pics.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/help-using-shop-forum/111992-please-tell-me-how-post-pictures.html

You can also e-mail roy@peachparts.com the pictures and a link to the thread you want them posted on.

.

wordmanjay 11-29-2011 04:02 PM

Army- that's the steps I've taken- pretty sure I did everything properly- fairly computer savvy-
Not sure- will try again when needed- will just email pics like Hunter said if it doesn't work.
Thanks.


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