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Old 05-24-2012, 12:12 PM
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Well, I did determine both the shutoff valve and the shutoff lever easily stop the engine. But I decided to try doing it through the injectors anyway, since like whunter said, I could also inspect the injector nozzles. Everything went surprsingly smoothly until I actually went to do the test. As soon as the guage reaches 250 psi, the connector pops off. There's only one quick connector in the kit that fits the injector adapter, so I can't try another one to see if it's just a bum connector. That would be my guess. Naturally I got the cheap Harbor Freight tester. It worked fine with the glow plug adapter (it popped off once on that round but I assumed I had not seated it right, and it was fine every other time). Frustrating.
Also my injectors came out covered in oil, especially Nos. 1 and 2. Not an encouraging day.
It's popping at the quick coupler? That HF kit is not very good. The fittings are nickel plated brass (should be steel for such application) and tolerance is lousy. I did extensive work to my HF kit to make it work and leak free.

Post a pic of your injectors. Where is the oil coming from?
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:23 AM
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It's popping at the quick coupler? That HF kit is not very good. The fittings are nickel plated brass (should be steel for such application) and tolerance is lousy. I did extensive work to my HF kit to make it work and leak free.

Post a pic of your injectors. Where is the oil coming from?
Yep it's popping off at the quick coupler. It is a different quick coupler than the one used for the glow plugs, so I'm guessing it is the quick coupler that is causing the problem. I definitely have it fastened as solidly as it will go ... I tried several times, but each time it would pop off. I think maybe I could rent a tester from Pep Boys and see if it works any better.
Injector pics ... the oil was all over the tips. Some of it was fuel (those droplets on the cardboard were partly fuel that dripped out):

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Old 05-25-2012, 12:04 PM
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There is only one quick coupler (the brass thing at the hose with a spring loaded collar). The part that goes on the injector adapter is a fitting. Check the shape of that fitting compared to the ones for the glow plugs to see if it is different. Also check the quick coupler o-ring to make sure it has not unseated itself. If it has, lube it with some oil then pop it back in. Also lube the collar with light oil to make it work smoother.

There shouldn't be oil on injectors in a good running engine. What you have maybe fuel from your compression test with the fuel not shut off completely + soot which together look like oil. One way to find out is put the injectors back in, run the engine till fully hot and take the injectors out. They should be dry with just a thin layer of soot.

While your injectors are out, might as well get them pop tested for opening pressure and spray pattern and correct it if there are problems before putting them back in. Don't forget new sealing washers (heat shields) every time an injector is R&R'ed. You gotta plan what to do when pulling injectors and do as much as possible and not use up too many sets of heat shields which add up and gets expensive.
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:17 PM
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It could be bye bye tester if you get ignition but that depends on the state of the engine and the tester - don't the really good testers have a pressure relief valve? Anyway according to the SAE OM617 development paper at idle the cylinder pressure is just under 40 bar - that's about 580 psi.
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I just used a Mighty-Mite type vacuum pump on the stop valve. Just a few pumps is enough (~10" vacuum?). That lets you test the stop valve at the same time.

I also have the Harbor Freight Diesel Compression set (~$20), and it works fine. You probably aren't latching the coupler right. It is just a standard air-tool quick-connect. Insure you push it in fully and pull the collar forward, if the spring doesn't.
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