The front end weight on my car is equal to or less than a mustang 2 with a v8, as I checked before buying it. So it should handle the weight all right. My truck should weigh between 3000 and 3500#.

I'll be interested in weighing it one of these days.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

It was interesting to weigh Mutt. IIRC, 3080 (that's LBS not Kilos) with me in it and a full tank of fuel, all fluids, etc. Of course, the tank only holds 2 gallons so it doesn't add much. I posted a label on the dash as I knew there was no way I'd remember it! Weight is not a major issue in LSR so really it's just a curiosity thing but it IS a data point. I worked in the engineering world long enough to value data even if it's useless data!

Dan

Today they are installing the 38# flywheel. I picked it up this morning along with the 28# wheel from the car to have them checked for balance.

They also moved the engine back 1/8" + a little and now I have a half inch clear at the crossmember!

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Still waiting for the flywheels. Today I hassled with getting the faulty rack replaced. Fat man has shipped me one (or will tomorrow) and when I get it I will return this one. I also took the tires off the front and swapped some around to end up with taller tires on the front to get the front out of the dirt a bit.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I'm going to pick up my 240 and 300 FW now. Both are neutral. 5 grams off between them. Homer says that is in the range for a racing engine.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Pretty sure my 300SD automatic and 240D manual flywheels were/are neutral balanced. That, or I'm the luckiest SOB on the planet as I just bolted on the 240D flywheel and all was well (guess I had a 1 in 12 chance, right?). I've read about the balance issues but I wonder which specific models were externally balanced. There must be a chart somewhere with engine/transmission numbers, etc. That info sure would make it easier for us engine swappers.

Dan

Its not like that. The 240 is normal to be neutral I believe. The 617 is not externally balanced unless the crank cannot be made neutral at the factory, then it is made to balance with the crank. In at least 6 instances of standard transmission flywheels with 617 and 240 ds all have been neutral but the 617 must be checked after marking the crank before removing the flywheel. I had a 84 280e which was externally balanced.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I didn't know that there was a possibility that the OM 617 might not be neutrally balanced so I pulled the automatic flywheel all fat and happy - ignorance is a wonderful thing. Then I torqued the 240 flywheel back on and away I went so as I said, I was stupid lucky. I'll take lucky when it's in my favor. If I did another one of course I'd take precautions. I actually found out that it might be externally balanced after I had everything bolted together and the engine/trans in the car so I decided that I'd have it balanced in the truck if it was shaky - it wasn't.

But are you saying that knowing the engine number would not open a path to find out if that particular engine was neutral balanced or not? Bummer..... It would be nice to know if my spare engine is neutrally balanced.

Dan

Since the FSM specifies to match balance all of them I doubt that knowing the serial number would help. I did several too before learning about the potential for needing match balancing; as you were I was lucky too.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

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My 33 lb g wagon fly is 1/2 oz off from zero balanced, I figure that's close enough, im not going to hassle drilling on it. both extra engines are 84's so im pretty sure they were neutral balanced --it seems the 81 earlier stuff was off balanced from all the info I have garnered .

Are u using the 33# fw in sedans? cars?

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I edited it , I meant 1/2 oz off.


if I do repower something it will be a 37 or 38 GMC 1/2 ton, -like I posted pics of back in post # 53 here. Besides my COE gmc's I got one of each of the 7-8's -or parts enough to build one, and some 36 stuff too.
im doing a 38 chevy first though with a belly button 350/350





I also dig the awesome 270 gmc's -- mid 50's are great engines and easily give up more horsie'z with the typical richard racer schemes.
the 617 costs more to do if'n U want the modded pump, and custom 5er adaptor, manifolds , etc - because none of it sits around available on a shelf somewhere.


The weight of these two engines are identical, and the size is about the same , its easier to get 200 hp with a gmc...... The value, its kinda like your stude club guys were trying to tell you.
ridiculously Unreasonable skinflints are not just appointed to one crowd, if'n these types sense a chiseling point , they will do what they feel most comfortable of when they are trying to buy,
and I cant do custom stuff anticipating those bozo'z.

Nice looking GMC! The color is very close to my CE.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I got the new rack and pinion today from the Fatman.

Woo hoo!

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Hope that makes it all better!

Dan