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Old 11-11-2012, 02:32 PM
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W201 2.5D condenser help needed

I have a 190D 2.5 diesel from 1986.
I'm putting an airco in it.

But i dont know how to mount the condenser.
Can someone who has a 190D 2.5 diesel make some picture how its mounted?

So for a know on the top there 2 clips that hold it. But i have no idea how its kept in place in the bottom.

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Old 11-11-2012, 02:38 PM
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I don't know the 201 as well as the 1xx models, but the 123/124/126 have 2 rubber grommets on the bottom support beam, that receive two pegs on the bottom of the condenser. Then the two clips at the top secure the condenser to the cross member at the top.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:29 PM
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That's how it mounts in my 88 190D
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:09 AM
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Thanks for the input.
My condenser didn't line up with the holes.
Maybe i need an extra bracket or so.

A picture is a 1000 words, i already look up on google for 2 hours to find a suitable picture but couldn't find a good one.

Best i could find:
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:49 PM
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In front of and above the large rubber grommets the radiator drops into there are smaller rubber grommets, those are what the condenser drops into.

The condenser has rubber sleeves on the tabs on the top of it. Those clip to the core support with the same type of clips that hold the radiator in.

Are you trying to reinstall your original condenser or a new one?

On a 190D both fittings on the condenser are on the drivers side. On most gassers the condenser has one fitting on the drivers side and one on the passenger side. Do you have the wrong condenser?

The one in you're picture is what your car should look like.
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Old 11-12-2012, 01:14 PM
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My car didn't have an A/C
I have all the components to build one in.
I bought a new condenser:


There 2 stubs in the bottom, they wont fit anywhere.
English is not my native language, so pictures are better for me
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:14 AM
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Can some help me getting a few pictures?
I really would appreciated it.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:05 PM
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Here is a little history about my car.
I have a 190D 2.5 automatic from 1986, without airco (or any option that matter)

I bought a nice 190E 2.6 with alot of options and airco.
The idea was to put the options to the 190D include the airco.

After the dismembering the 190E 2.6 i found out that not all parts of the airco could be used on the 190D

What parts are different?
electric wires
aircorelays
engine mount aircopump
condenser
condenser aircofan
main airco hose from the pump to the condenser/evaporator

The rest i could use.
Some pictures:

Rebuild airco cable-loom




Rebuild the airco pump


New parts, Airco sensors, new o-rings, rebuild set for the pump with new bearing.


other aircomount for engine.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:08 PM
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Other airco relay for a diesel with kickdown.


Other aircohose for the 2.5 diesel



New drier and expansion valve.

Im very serious about the project, so i hope this motivate someone to make those pictures for me
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:48 PM
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It's ashame that you can't charge this brand new system with R12, or can you? Even though you are in a mild climate, it would make a more effective AND longer lived a/c system.
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No, R12 is illegal here aswell.
But i could get it filled with an R12 replacement gas R413A?
But any respecting garage here can fill R134a.
For the oil I have chosen Supercool ester oil.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:55 PM
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I wish I had a 201 to take a picture for you.
I MAY have access to one. I'll try next week...
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:51 PM
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Just take out the radiator. It will be painfully obvious to you with the radiator out. The condenser just snugs up against the front of the rad and in a rail at the bottom. As far as taking the rad out, it is a little messy, but makes the job a whole lot easier. That's what I did. Otherwise, it is a major pain to pull and replace the condenser with the radiator in.

In the meantime, I can shoot some pics in the morning.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:12 AM
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I wish I had a 201 to take a picture for you.
I MAY have access to one. I'll try next week...
Thanks, but looks like Metafly is going to make some pictures for me.

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Pulling the radiator isn't an problem, i want to replace the coolant anyway.
I already test fitted the condenser, it can be done

Those picture are very welcome, where the condenser falls in.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:28 PM
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Thanks, but looks like Metafly is going to make some pictures for me.

@Metafly

Pulling the radiator isn't an problem, i want to replace the coolant anyway.
I already test fitted the condenser, it can be done

Those picture are very welcome, where the condenser falls in.
Hope these help. Again, with the radiator removed, you will have zero questions about the condenser placement. Even though doable , you will have a much easier time getting it back together without damage if the radiator is pulled.
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