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Old 01-30-2013, 04:58 PM
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I'm just finshing up a 5 speed conversion on my Mercedes 300D engine. It will not be going in a Mercedes car though...but it easily could. I'm using a "mercedesdiesiel4x4" conversion kit for a 4.2l Jeep and T5 transmision. The Jeep T5 has the same bolt patern and input shaft, so a Mustang T5 will work (2wd). It uses the Jeep flywheel and belhousing. The adapter is about $380 and Jeep/Mustang stuff is dirt cheap. There is also an adapter by "4x4labs.com" and "transmissionadapters.com" for Chevy auto and manual transmissions...upwards of $1000 for the adapters, but once again the transmissions and flywheels are abundant and cheap with a huge range of ratios,etc. I might have the different website names mixed up, but you should find a wokable combo. I was really afraid of using the Mercedes auto trans or the 240D manual due to the cost of overhaul or availibilty of parts. All this Chevy/Ford stuff is bolt on, cheap and inexpensive to overhaul with no welding or machine work. The 4x4 guys are pretty crazy and will put just about anything in a Jeep if it will crawl up a hill. What better than a desiel. My thoughts are; my 82 300D turbo used to get high 20s mpg, so why would it not get 40mpg in a 1500lbs lighter car with a efficient OD manual trans? Am I wrong?? All in fun!

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Old 01-31-2013, 03:29 PM
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I don't think they are that common there either. Since lots of the former eastern block countries have joined the EU they've had to start some form of road safety checks.
I have heard the same thing from Marius, the guy who does some wrenching for me, who is originally from Romania.

When the fall of communism first allowed people from old soviet bloc countries to travel to western europe to buy cars, a Mercedes w123 was considered a real prize. Marius desperately wanted one but the crafty Germans of course instantly hiked their asking prices to respond to the demand, so he returned to Romania crestfallen with his distant second pick, an Audi 100 diesel.

In addition to safety checks and the bare fact that time has marched on, I also think that as wealth has emerged in these countries people have begun to respond like western consumers: newer, shinier things have more status appeal.
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Old 01-31-2013, 03:40 PM
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I'm just finshing up a 5 speed conversion on my Mercedes 300D engine. It will not be going in a Mercedes car though...but it easily could. Zeke
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:50 AM
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I have heard the same thing from Marius, the guy who does some wrenching for me, who is originally from Romania.

When the fall of communism first allowed people from old soviet bloc countries to travel to western europe to buy cars, a Mercedes w123 was considered a real prize. Marius desperately wanted one but the crafty Germans of course instantly hiked their asking prices to respond to the demand, so he returned to Romania crestfallen with his distant second pick, an Audi 100 diesel.

In addition to safety checks and the bare fact that time has marched on, I also think that as wealth has emerged in these countries people have begun to respond like western consumers: newer, shinier things have more status appeal.
Indeed the days of getting by with a suitcase full of Levi 501s are long gone (if they ever existed!).
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I just ordered the adapter for the T5 trans, but have all the components. As soon as the adapter comes in (a couple of days, already shipped), I'll mock up the engine/belhousing/transmission and try and figure out how to post a picture. A T5 is pretty small, but long. It will easiely fit into most trans tunnels. A world class Ford T5 will handle 300 lbs of torque, so no problem with any Mercedes diesel. The shifter is pretty far back, but the top cover and tail housing off a 4 cylinder S10 T5 exchanges onto any V8 (Ford or Chevy) T5 moving the shifter forward about 8 inches. This is a very popular low buck swap for 55-57 Chevy guys and early truck swaps. I have the same set up in my 55 Chevy Cameo with a LS1 and the shifter comes out close to the original compound low 4 speed, otherwise the shifter would be under the front edge of the seat.
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More 5 speed conversion stuff

Just got my adapter kit for the Jeep T5 to 300d. I may have gotten a bit screwed up...the input shaft on my WC T5 is about 1/2 inch longer than a Jeep T5 and things don't bolt up quite right. I bought a WC T5 from a 87 2.3l Mustang due to the low first gear (4:1). The input shaft might be longer on the 4 cylinder. The torque rating is still around 240'lbs. I have a buddy with a 5.0l T5, I'll go measure it. I might even set it up for a Chevy T5 (I've got a couple of them. When I get this thing bolted together, I'll make a fresh post. KZ
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:25 PM
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Just got my adapter kit for the Jeep T5 to 300d. I may have gotten a bit screwed up...the input shaft on my WC T5 is about 1/2 inch longer than a Jeep T5 and things don't bolt up quite right. I bought a WC T5 from a 87 2.3l Mustang due to the low first gear (4:1). The input shaft might be longer on the 4 cylinder. The torque rating is still around 240'lbs. I have a buddy with a 5.0l T5, I'll go measure it. I might even set it up for a Chevy T5 (I've got a couple of them. When I get this thing bolted together, I'll make a fresh post. KZ
I do know the Ford 2.3l T5 has a smaller diameter input shaft tip at the pilot bearing than the V8 counterparts. I think shaft lengths do vary also.
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2.3 longer input

Yup, definately a 1/2" longer, but I think I've got it figured out. Also the Jeep front bearing support (throwout bearing sleeve) is larger diameter and shorter. I've got one ordered. The input splines are plenty long, so this should work (fully engage the clutch disk). The trick would have been to use a V8 Mustang T5, but I already have this one and I like the lower first gear. I went through this last year when I adapted a Chevy 5 speed to a Cummins 4BT and put it in a 55 1/2 ton Chevy PU. All in fun!
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How much lower than the oil pan on the engine is the bottom of your transmission? I'm considering something similar for a 300d but am concerned about ground clearance.
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