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Old 07-17-2014, 06:20 PM
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So:
It starts easy when cold.
It runs fine.
It will not restart when hot.

The next time it will not start when hot: cool down the IP by pouring a bucket of water over it.

Report back if that makes it start or not.
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Old 07-18-2014, 10:36 PM
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So:
It starts easy when cold.
It runs fine.
It will not restart when hot.

The next time it will not start when hot: cool down the IP by pouring a bucket of water over it.

Report back if that makes it start or not.
Pouring Hot water on a cold IP or cool/cold water on a hot IP is not a good idea. The tolerances in the pump are very close, and a sudden temp change could cause a problem.

Edit:
"As per post #9, and reading the link, Iam all wet in what I wrote here. I guess I should say pouring hot or cold water on the IP will greatly improve it`s performance."

We are packing for a move, so I can`t quote the source I read it from, my manuals are packed away until we unpack in Oct/Nov.

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Old 07-18-2014, 11:19 PM
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Pouring Hot water on a cold IP or cool/cold water on a hot IP is not a good idea. The tolerances in the pump are very close, and a sudden temp change could cause a problem.

We are packing for a move, so I can`t quote the source I read it from, my manuals are packed away until we unpack in Oct/Nov.

Charlie
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Read post #4 - #6 in the above linked thread.
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Previous:
1983 240D, on WVO
1982 300D, on WVO
1983 300CD, on WVO
1986 300SDL 237k, 25k on WVO (Deerslayer)
1991 350SDL 249k, 56k on WVO - Retired to a car spa in Phoenix
1983 380 SEC w/603 diesel, 8k on WVO
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Old 07-19-2014, 04:03 PM
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Well I think my IP is OK because I spent a lot of $ on a professionally rebuilt one. I believe my issues now are because the PO was using the stock dakota tank setup.

I've been reading about a lot of air getting into the fuel that causes power loss and such. I want to make the tank draw fuel from the bottom and not the top like it does now. Anyone have ideas about how to alter the dakota tank to do so? I am trying to find a bolt on fuel tank outlet I can put on there.
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Old 07-19-2014, 05:01 PM
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I'll second that move! Get rid of that fuel tank/ fuel pump and go gravity. Nothing better, nothing more simple.
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Old 07-19-2014, 07:16 PM
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Why don't you try and run the engine using the soda bottle? It's easy to do and is almost free. If it runs on the bottle, perhaps your issue is the fuel tank. It could also be a clogged fuel cap or tank vent causing a vapor lock. Start with the simple cheap fixes unless you know the parts are defective. If the truck will not start or run on the soda bottle, it's probably related to the filter/ fuel pump/ hose clamp or air leak. Good Luck
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Old 07-19-2014, 08:27 PM
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Why don't you try and run the engine using the soda bottle? It's easy to do and is almost free. If it runs on the bottle, perhaps your issue is the fuel tank. It could also be a clogged fuel cap or tank vent causing a vapor lock. Start with the simple cheap fixes unless you know the parts are defective. If the truck will not start or run on the soda bottle, it's probably related to the filter/ fuel pump/ hose clamp or air leak. Good Luck
Yes that is the plan, I'll do the soda bottle trick first. I have done this for lubri moly treatments before. I am guessing I have an issue with the tank though, I want to start looking/ordering parts now because it's still taking up space at my mechanics shop.
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