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Old 08-20-2016, 07:29 PM
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300D NON-Turbo help..

Ok, whats up everyone?
Im the new guy, I have been rebuilding cars for a long time, but this is all new territory for me. I have searched and searched, fell asleep from browsing, woke up searched some more. Basically I have some questions, and the answers I've found are for turbo models.

1. The car runs although im not sure if its proper or not. Sometimes between shifts the rpm spikes and then it shifts like 2 gears. I have found that the culprit is a vacuum modulator for the trans??

2. I think it may need injectors, as there are a lot of noises at warm up and after a long drive. Throttle response is also non existent, but again, NON-turbo. any suggestions?

3. oil pressure according to the gauge in the cluster is always pegged when driving, and then at red lights it sits at about 1.5 to 2, but then after a long drive it sits at 1, but never lower. is that normal?

4. there's a leak at this bolt that i think is where there would be a distributor on a gas model, its very little, but you can see the air bubbles as it leaks. where do i find that seal??

5. the temp sensor i think is bad, and i say think because when the car is off the needle on the gauge sits all the way down, but as soon as i crank it, it kind of jumps?? but never registers anything. what i mean is, it jumps to a higher position than with the key off but never moves.

really those are my big things besides, how do i swap over a turbo motor. i do have an LS complete with trans, and ecu, wiring etc, that i was saving for my ranger, but i got a 302 for the ranger and im thinking of making the mercedes a 300SS. thanks in advance though, i know its a lot, but the car was free and i just need some help getting it right. will post pics if needed

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Old 08-20-2016, 11:50 PM
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1. Depends on year - your car may not have one but if you know it does well...

2. Check your accelerator linkages are adjusted so full pedal moves the IP lever down all the way

3. Yes

4. Shouldn't be any coming from the oil pump quill shaft, that seal should be tight, is there oil or fuel sitting where the bubbles are?

5. Could be the gauge or the sensor, try shorting out the plug that connects to the sensor on the cylinder head near the glow plugs. The gauge should max out.

As for the LS, eww
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:20 PM
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2. adjust valves as well.
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Here's a shot from above.





And here's zoomed in a little.


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Old 08-23-2016, 01:48 AM
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Now that's a fair leak...I've never had a look myself but must be a crush washer or something that needs replacing there.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:52 PM
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That's what I was thinking also, but a guy from here that just happens to live by me said that it's an o-ring. He says that space if normally where the distributor goes on the gas version. I know there is air getting into the fuel system somehow.
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No, these is no correlation between the diesel and gas engines. Period. I would put money on that leak being from one of the return lines from the injectors. They are probably due for replacement.

Have you checked the tank strainer?
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Old 08-24-2016, 12:19 AM
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Also your bad temp guage could be a cluster grounding issue.
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Old 08-24-2016, 10:36 PM
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That's what I was thinking also, but a guy from here that just happens to live by me said that it's an o-ring. He says that space if normally where the distributor goes on the gas version. I know there is air getting into the fuel system somehow.
On a non turbo OM61X engine that's the top of the drive that runs from the intermediate shaft to the oil pump.

Engine oil gets forced up a galley way behind that cap and off towards the oil filter.

The 'O' ring under this cap might have failed because the parts underneath often shuttle backwards and forwards - wearing themselves out. This is a weak point for the OM61X engine - makes a loud rattling noise (which is difficult to detect on these clattery diesels). Remove the cap and look for wear in the end of the part underneath it - you need to remove a grub screw to pull it out.

Whilst the parts described above might be at fault a far simpler problem could be oil pooling from a leaking valve cover gasket. These gaskets are sold as a "fit only once" item - but they often get used many times.
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Never seen a Chevy LS V-8 in a 300D, but it would be neat. People would comment on how quiet your diesel idles. But, any such redesign is extremely complicated, with many "can't get there from here" issues. Biggest would be getting an oil pan that would clear the K-frame. I haven't seen any U.S. engines with a front sump, as you would need. Must also clear the steering linkage and such.

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