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617 diesel: steady rhythmic tick tick tick tick sound from engine
1984 300DT 5 cylinder turbo diesel. When I put my ear near the ground in front of the left front tire (driver's side), I can hear a steady rhythmic tick tick tick tick tick tick tick sound coming from the engine.
At first I thought it might be a loose crankshaft bolt on the front of the crankshaft causing the three spacer washers to sing a song. That said, I don't think it is that because the tick tick tick tick is in steady rhythmic time. You could set a metronome or watch to it. All ideas and input is appreciated!! |
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Husky, get a mechanic's stethoscope and start probing. See if it changes with engine speed. Some say to use a wood billet of some sort and that will also work but the 'scope is better and cheap enough, about $10.
The major mechanical bit in that area you describe is the vacuum pump. |
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Thank you for the input. Question, could a bad vacuum pump produce a steady rhythmic tick tick tick tick sound? |
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I think so. Mine just goes pocka pocka pocka.
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The vac pump can definitely tick. If you can isolate it best replace immediately as if it falls apart the parts can jamb your cam chain and stopped cams are a very bad thing for the motor. Pistons hit valves, and valves break cams and or cam towers.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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Tonight, I started the car, let it idle down then placed my mechanic's stethoscope directly on the vacuum pump. It sounded normal to me, a "whirring sound" if you will. I did not hear a distinct or stacatto "tick tick tick tick tick" sound.
I then listened carefully to the front of the engine without using my mechanic's stethescope. From up top, I hear a faint tick tick tick tick tick sound coming from somewhere front center of the motor to slightly left of center. When I listen to the sound from underneath the car, it seems more pronounced than when I am listening standing over the top of the engine. This is puzzling...... |
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Did you listen with the oil filler cap off?
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. ![]() ..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis. |
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I'd loosen the injector line nuts one at a time to see if it's a cylinder doing it (ie combustion knock or something related to cylinders)
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making.... 1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...) 1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone* 1977 250 parts car 1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone* 1975 FJ45>HJ45 1981 200>240D (to be sold...) 1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone* 1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist) 2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD ![]() |
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Deformed heatshield on DS motor mount?
Loose/failed DS engine shock? Loose oil cooler bracket? Loose A/C hose bracket?
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I'll check all these items as well, thank you for the input. I guess my weekend schedule is filling up....... ![]() ![]() |
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UPDATE!
Besides the "tick tick tick tick tick" sound I hear when I have my ear near the left front side of the car, on the RIGHT side (passenger), I hear a sound similar to an aluminum coke can filled with gravel. Weird.
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This one may be a bearing; alternator is on that side.
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The vacuum pump has been mentioned - the cause of many a vacuum pump failure is due to the wear induced on the intermediate shaft bearing.
Remove vacuum pump - push / pull up against the timing device - no noticeable movement should be detectable
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior ![]() Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Sounds like I need to perform a thorough inspection of the vacuum pump and front crankshft bolt. I'll take the oil cap off and listen for any unusual sounds as well.
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Injector nozzles good? Injectors balanced? Valves adjusted? It might be nailing.
Engine mounts in good shape?
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-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life- ![]() '15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800) '17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k) '09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k) '13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k) '01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km) '16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k) |
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