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Old 03-19-2008, 10:46 PM
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vogtland springs and pads

What is the length of the rear vogtland springs compared to stock coupe/sedans? How about wagons? What do most of you utilize for pads?
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Old 03-19-2008, 11:50 PM
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I just ordered 3 nubs over the two that I had. These springs were clearly at a v8 or something as I have a slight negative rake. Compare to the AMG springs these have far fewer coils. I have considered putting coupe springs instead.
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Old 03-20-2008, 04:49 PM
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back and front have the same pads?
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:01 PM
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3 rear 1 front. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 03-20-2008, 07:47 PM
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3 rear 1 front. Your mileage may vary.
So with the tallest (3 nub=19mm) in the rear and the smallest in the front (1 nub=9.5mm) the front of your car is higher than the rear? I just bought a set of VSprings and may install them on the wagon. Are pads inter-changable between front and rear?

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Old 03-20-2008, 09:26 PM
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Some overall feedback from you guys would be good so I can pass it along to Vogtland if/when they ever decide to press these again.. you still had negative rake running 2nubs rear/1 nub front??
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Some overall feedback from you guys would be good so I can pass it along to Vogtland if/when they ever decide to press these again.. you still had negative rake running 2nubs rear/1 nub front??
I think this would be the place and thread to hear that feedback. So I'd presume I'd (and everyone) want 3 nubs rear and 1 nub front from the one feedback we have so far.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:28 AM
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I think this would be the place and thread to hear that feedback. So I'd presume I'd (and everyone) want 3 nubs rear and 1 nub front from the one feedback we have so far.
1 nub front 3 nub rear
I just recently got a spring compressor and I am waiting for pads and shocks (might as well do the shocks now too). I may be a few weeks before I can get this done and report.
With the stock shocks and springs I have a lot of body roll cornering, and when I step hard on the accelerator the front end rises and the back end squats much more than it should with a car of this limited power. (my daughter, calls it 'boating up')
From what others have said I am looking forward to a big improvement.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:22 PM
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Currently I have 2 in the rear and there is 1/2" or so rear rake. I believe the difference in affected height is 2x the incremental size.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:16 PM
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How are the comforts? I am considering shaving the 1nub in the front. Still just a bit or rear rake unloaded.
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Nice yellow coupe! I may take the plunge soon and change the front brakes to the 560SEL (rotors and calipers) change the bearings, shocks to comforts, all while putting in the vogtlands both front and back if I can find the stock rear spring specs and see how they compare to the wagon rear springs. I've got alot to do before may 16 when I make the coastal voyage.
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Nice yellow coupe! I may take the plunge soon and change the front brakes to the 560SEL (rotors and calipers) change the bearings, shocks to comforts, all while putting in the vogtlands both front and back if I can find the stock rear spring specs and see how they compare to the wagon rear springs. I've got alot to do before may 16 when I make the coastal voyage.
I am also thinking of some sort of brake upgrade on the CD. I am generally pretty easy on brakes 100km or more on pads usually(I think the pads on my 89 Caprice are original). I drive fast when the roads are clear, but I like a lotta room in front of me, and I use the engine to do most of my braking.
Still I have that 2.47 diff in this car and when I get a little more maintenance and tuning done on it I want to borrow a GPS and open her up to see what the top end is. -And vehicles that go fast need to be able to stop fast. (learned that building choppers back when it didn't look cool to have front brakes cluttering up the front wheel)
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as far as I am aware the only "upgrade" that bolts on won't decrease your stopping distance any.. That is to take vented rotors off a W126, as well as W126 calipers, and stick them on the W123... All this does is make it so your brakes don't fade as fast, but stopping once from 120-130mph shouldn't matter too much...
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:12 PM
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as far as I am aware the only "upgrade" that bolts on won't decrease your stopping distance any.. That is to take vented rotors off a W126, as well as W126 calipers, and stick them on the W123... All this does is make it so your brakes don't fade as fast, but stopping once from 120-130mph shouldn't matter too much...
That is what I am thinking too. But vented rotors would still be an upgrade. I'm thinking that I am going to have to do wheel bearings all the way around before too long (they are quiet but too much play) and that would be a good time to change calipers and replace rotors, new pads, maybe control arm rubbers, and anything else I can find worn.
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Old 04-11-2008, 07:53 PM
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as far as I am aware the only "upgrade" that bolts on won't decrease your stopping distance any.. That is to take vented rotors off a W126, as well as W126 calipers, and stick them on the W123... All this does is make it so your brakes don't fade as fast, but stopping once from 120-130mph shouldn't matter too much...
No, vented rotors and w126 calipers won't stop a w123 in a shorter distance- but they will resist heat much better. I've had over 10 brake fading incidents due to sticking calipers and it's not fun at all, much less to talk about safe operation. If you play a bit with the TC- you can get a engine that resists the return to idle- guess what... that stresses the braking system to it's (pun intended) breaking point. It's a definite upgrade, and mine will happen before the end of may.
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