Difference in 107 Dash Pad, 560 vs 380 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

JoJoDFG · #1 03-29-2007, 05:30 PM

Hi All,
I am starting to refurbish my '84 380sl and I found a new, slightly damaged, dash pad for a 560sl. Other than having to add the knee roll (I found one in Texas for $250), can any of you tell me if it will work? The part number is slightly different and the dealer can't tell me what exactly the difference is.
#107 680 82 87 560sl dash
#107 680 34 87 380sl part number
My indie mech says they all are the same...
Anyone have the answer?
Thank you,
Jo

peter serbanica · #2 03-30-2007, 05:15 PM

I would buy a coverlay dash cover. They are moulded plastic and fir over existing dash. You can buy a spray can of paint. I have replaced many. They fit and look great and won't crack.

JoJoDFG · #3 03-30-2007, 07:11 PM

Thank you Peter. It may come to that, however I am going to pull my cracked dash (to fix my a/c pods that can't be reached otherwise) and I am afraid that my dash will really be in bad shape after it is re-installed. The 560 dash I came across has only slight damage and was never installed. This would be the new foam, which is far superior to installing another old circa '80's dash. I don't imagine it will be over $800 which is way lower than the $2,500 they go for retail. I was trying to find out if the 560 is different than the 380 dash, so I don't thow $800 down the hole...which I could use for a rebuilt tranny...
Any idea how much a good rebuilt transmission installed runs today?
BTW, thanks to all sl posters, I have been finding great stuff here to help me find the best resources for getting my 'ol 380 back in shape.

Roncallo · #4 03-30-2007, 08:30 PM

Last I checked you could have your dash recoverd for ~ 850. The down side is they want your dash for about 4 months to do it. Unfortunatly I dont have the name of the company here but I may find it in a few days. When I return home. The coverlay does work well and looks good, if installed properly. But I am currently at the Barret Jackson Auto Auction. About 4 107's were auctioned off this morning, Not a single one had a coverlay and none of the dashboards were cracked. The 107' went between $17,500 for a 560 with 125K miles to $26,000 for a 560SL with 74K miles. Non of these cars were perfect.

dugald · #5 03-30-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Roncallo

Last I checked you could have your dash recoverd for ~ 850. The down side is they want your dash for about 4 months to do it. Unfortunatly I dont have the name of the company here but I may find it in a few days. When I return home. The coverlay does work well and looks good, if installed properly. But I am currently at the Barret Jackson Auto Auction. About 4 107's were auctioned off this morning, Not a single one had a coverlay and none of the dashboards were cracked. The 107' went between $17,500 for a 560 with 125K miles to $26,000 for a 560SL with 74K miles. Non of these cars were perfect.

I am watching the auction now. No 107's in sight tonight. Too mundane for prime time I suppose.
Did you buy anything? Or sit on your hands? Prices seem less ridiculous than Scottsdale.

JoJoDFG · #6 03-30-2007, 10:34 PM

Roncallo– Thank you, I would love to have the name of the company that recovers the dash...too bad I didn't look into this sooner as my 380 has been sitting around for some time (years really) with not much use. Boy, those are some good prices for 560's.

Roncallo · #7 03-31-2007, 05:20 PM

The prices that these cars are going for are very high. However I'm here looking into the posibility of selling in the futer. this trip cost me ~$1500 for the 4 days plus 3 days vacation time. If I brought a car to sell thats another $1400 shipping. And then if I were actually selling I really should have another person. Then theres tent space detailing ect. So it would cost me roughly $4000 to put a car on the block.

A car in equivolent condition and milage as my black 560SL ,126K miles went for 17.5K there is a 8% sellers fee and a 10% buyers fee.

So essentially I would walk away with $12,000, which in all honesty is not something I can do by any other means and its fast. 4 days and its game over.

Now the guy who buys this car, just paid $19,250 after commisions and he may have to ship it, all for this car that has an NADA dealer retail value of at most $14K and streat value of < $11K.

peter serbanica · #8 03-31-2007, 06:15 PM

It seems the navy blue dashs crack the most.

MTUpower · #9 03-31-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roncallo

The prices that these cars are going for are very high. However I'm here looking into the posibility of selling in the futer. this trip cost me ~$1500 for the 4 days plus 3 days vacation time. If I brought a car to sell thats another $1400 shipping. And then if I were actually selling I really should have another person. Then theres tent space detailing ect. So it would cost me roughly $4000 to put a car on the block.

A car in equivolent condition and milage as my black 560SL ,126K miles went for 17.5K there is a 8% sellers fee and a 10% buyers fee.

So essentially I would walk away with $12,000, which in all honesty is not something I can do by any other means and its fast. 4 days and its game over.

Now the guy who buys this car, just paid $19,250 after commisions and he may have to ship it, all for this car that has an NADA dealer retail value of at most $14K and streat value of < $11K.

IE florida's version of the ebay stupidity.

JoJoDFG · #10 04-01-2007, 11:53 AM

I have the palomino interior which has the very, very, dark brown dash; it reads black, and let me tell you, it cracked very early on in it's life. I spoke to a high-end leather restorer and he said that the foam MB used had a chemical that caused it to become extremely dry and brittle. He said they changed the foam used in later models.

Can I ask you 560sl owners a question?
How do you feel about the knee roll below the steering wheel? My husband is 6'2", would he have knee room issues?

dugald · #11 04-01-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoJoDFG

I have the palomino interior which has the very, very, dark brown dash; it reads black, and let me tell you, it cracked very early on in it's life. I spoke to a high-end leather restorer and he said that the foam MB used had a chemical that caused it to become extremely dry and brittle. He said they changed the foam used in later models.

Can I ask you 560sl owners a question?
How do you feel about the knee roll below the steering wheel? My husband is 6'2", would he have knee room issues?

I'm 6'-2" as well, have no issues with the 560 SL knee roll. However, I do have a headroom problem with the top on, which wasn't there with my 1974 450SL. I believe the 560 seats are higher. Happily, headroom is unlimited with the top off, which is how it should be, imo.

JoJoDFG · #12 04-01-2007, 01:52 PM

Thanks, Dugald...my 380's front seat has a height adjustment...if it didn't we couldn't have bought the car. Actually, that was the only roadster that my husband could fit in without hitting the headliner...we saved lots of money cuz he couldn't fit in that Italian job he was thinking of...LOL

Roncallo · #13 04-01-2007, 03:12 PM

The link to the place I had originally received a quote from no longer works. But heres another one and they can turn it arround in about 4 weeks.

http://www.dashboardrestorations.com

John Roncallo

Roncallo · #14 04-01-2007, 03:28 PM

I think this might be it.

http://www.justdashes.com/Index.htm

John Roncallo

JoJoDFG · #15 04-01-2007, 04:05 PM

Thank you John,
Two great referrals...just dashes is 30 from me! I will call them tomorrow.
Jo