BHD is right... many stores have cameras at the credit/debit card machines. My debit card is a "Visa" debit card. I can swipe it at any store and just choose "credit" rather than debit, and it never asks me for my pin #... and I have never had a cashier ask to compare signatures or see an ID, etc...

You could give your son one chance to come clean, and then explain that there will likely me photo/video proof of who used the card. See what he says then!

Good luck,

Chris

Let him go to court and let the judge handle it. If he is innocent, it will come out. If not, well consider it an education experience for him. Why interfere in the process.

Not the stores.....the Banks who own the ATM have the security cam of the area ( usually visible) AND a pinhole camera (usualy hidden) of the face of the person using the machine. THats how they caught the perp who used my brothers card numerous times............. He knew the person who did it. And they denied it too.

If he used it he is as good as convicted. If he actualy did it he better cop a plea.....if he is convicted its gonna be worse.

Why bother to have him come clean or not. MYOB. He did the crime, let him do the time. So what if he comes clean? He knows he is on probation and chose to hang around those numbnuts. He chose to get involved with their activities. Let him deal with his own problems.

I forgot about the probation.......................he is dead meat if he actualy did it. Figuratively speaking. Plea bargin likely isn't on the table. He violated probation if he did it.....

That is what the last paragraph of the summons says.

I'm starting to wonder if they are all like that.

He will be going to court and facing it himself. The wife is going to provide him an attorney.

The thing that makes me think they are all numbnuts is after they were caught and questioned by the detectives they all kept pointing fingers at the others and no one would step up to the plate to make restitution - dumbasses. The girl that purchased clothes with it did take them back, everybody else just filled up their cars with gasoline.

Well its sounding like they were all guilty...........

Well if he did it they will have his picture at the ATM and then his goose is cooked.

He is facing it himself. The wife is providing him an attorney. Anyone but me see the contradiction? Anyways, now we know who is responsible. No offense, but maybe the wife should be the one confessing to the crime. She keeps bailing him out one way or the other and he will keep doing it. Maybe I am mistaken but doesn't it say somewhere in his Marinda rights that an attorney will be provided for him? She is doing a Keebler Elve thing. "Go ahead screw up. I'll fix it." He is on probation. IOW, he screwed up and was given a break and he screwed the pooch AGAIN. sounds like he is one of the two:

1. Will never learn
2. Has learnt that Mom will bail him out whenever he gets into a tough spot because of his own stupidity.

As I understood it, they didn't get $ from an ATM... they used it to buy things (clothes and gas). So there may be no ATM camera for pics, but stores sometimes have cameras at the pay stations.

To get a public defender you have to meet a means testing requirement......if you aren't poor enough you HAVE to pay yourself.

I heard all of this setting in court one day ....that applies in VA anyway.

So? Let him work it out the the court system. It is cheaper than hiring a private one anyways. Besides, it gives the kid the idea that he can screw up again and again and Mom will bail him out. Like I said, he was skating on this ice already. He knew that. This is like me having 11 points on my licence and then speeding. Well, if you were that close, you should know better than to speed. Now, if you have 3 points, go ahead.

Depending on his age (if under 21) its likely to be the parents problem to pay.

I thought 16 was the age of consent in GA?

Like I said, if the mother hires a good attorney, it sends the message that "You break it, I'll fix it". Let him go it alone. Like I said, even if they had to pay for an attorney, it probably won't be as costly as one that they hire privately. Let them saddle him with some cheapo attorney and let him not have the best defense and let him see what it is all about.

Age of consent may be 18 but for many things your parents are on the hook for until 21...............

I found out he was in GA and the age of consent was 16.

Also, reading this leads me to believe that he gets a public defender.

(h) Any municipality or municipal court may contract with the
office of the circuit public defender of the judicial circuit in which
such municipality is located as a means of complying with the
municipality´s or municipal court´s legal obligation to provide
defense counsel at no cost to indigent persons appearing before the
court in relation to violations of municipal ordinances, county
ordinances, or state laws.