What I meant was that if someone molested a kid and gets say 5 years for it, we cannot keep him for the rest of his life after he has done his 5 years. Now, as you say, if you change the law to make it a life sentence without parole, yes. That becomes a different story. Till you change the law, you shouldn't be able to confine the perp till eternity comes or he dies.

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After puberty I think it becomse statutory rape.........or carnal knowledge....still a sex crime but far less serious in my mind....

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

I totally agree, and I have an EXTREMELY SERIOUS problem with this notion of "hospitalizing" the guy, if he is considered emotionally unbalanced ,or whatever legal term they are using, for an indefinite amount of time, which is paramount to adding onto his sentence even though the law doesnt allow for a longer sentence.

The legislation should get some balls and make second offenses llife in prison.
ANY child porn should carry the same sentence.

BONEHEAD, I only pointed that out because I see even the mainstream media making the same error over and over, calling statutory rape as child molesting or pedophilia. THe reason its important is because if we start classifying the two together, it diminishes the gravity of TRUE PEDOPHILIA,

There is absolutely NO COMPARISION between seducing a 14 year old post puberescent boy into sex, and kidnapping, strangling and murdering an 8 year old girl, (yea, I know the comparision is a bit off, so what, hahah, I can act like a liberal occasionally)

I know what you mean......no offense taken.....there are a lot of post pubescent girls who are pretty agressive in their pursuit of older men....and some of these lie about their age and they truely do pass for legal age.

NO...and I mean NO prepubescent kid is capible of that...nor would they or could they pass as adult....and the trash that preys on the innocent trust of these yourger children really don't deserve to be released into public....ever.

Releaseing them is like releaseing AlQueda detainees if they promise to not do anything bad to us.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

GOod analogy.

I will do a slight correction on ya though, cuz I know your ego is smaller than your desire to learn.

My EXPERIENCE lead me to learn, that kids who have previously been molested, and I mean KIDS (for the sake of clarity, when I use that term, Im talking pre pub.) will begin behaving abnormally in a sexual way. This occured when it turned out the people living in the duplex behind us were engaging in bizarre sexual behavior, then they 7 year old, whom they had done it with, attmepted something with my 6 year old boy.

But you are right EXCEPT in the cases where they have been introduced to such activities, if they havent, then as far as I know, your statement is 100% accurate.

Well I was assuming Normal unmolested children when I made my statement, My only first hand knowledge with molested kids was mostly with an ex-girlfriend of mine....and the stories she told me would make Steven King seem like a writer of childrens stories...And man did it warp her brain....even after years of therapy at 37 she still had major problems...I walked away when her behaviour got too bizarre for me to deal with.. (self destructive in my mind and contrary to what I considered moral and right) she seemed to have her act together but the more I got to know here the more I saw her problems...then financial problems casued a backslide that she got real defensive about defending then I basicly saw it was time to cut and run as she no longer wanted to differentiate good from bad behaviour.

the post pubescent kids have the whole raging hormones thing and you never know how any one of them will react. And I do remember some exceptionally agressive females when I was that age.

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"He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

My friend Diane was just in Rome on business. She wrote a those of us who are members of a media advisory board to her organization. I thought some of you may appreciate a first hand account of what Rome is like after the death of Pope John Paul II.

"Dear Ayra, Caroline, Fiorella, Martha, Stefano and Wendy,

Greetings from Rome!

I have been in Rome since Sunday, April 10 as an observer of an educational program for journalists. The program has been good in light of the circumstances, but the eternal city is weighted down with sorrow.

The mood on Sunday when I came to Rome was bleak and gloomy with the rain pouring down washing away yesterday’s celebration and farewell to a great man. It was like nature was crying its last tears for Pope John Paul II. I walked over to St. Peters Square and noticed burnt candle wax along the side walk and on the road from vigils in honor of "Papa." St. Peter’s square was empty and was it like the day after News Years eve when only old confetti is left from the festivities stirring up feelings of emptiness and sadness instead of joy and laughter. "Papa" died and in Rome you sense it with all your being. From Monday to Wednesday the tears of rain have poured washing away memories of celebration. The only time there was a break from the rain was during the funeral mass at St. Peters at 5 p.m. in honor of Pope John Paul.

I appreciated a seminarian’s comment who said that this week was harder than the previous, because with all the guests and the pomp and circumstance gone, you are left with grief and pain – sorrow is everywhere. Rome is grieving.

The high of a being part of history is huge, but this week it is about quite sorrow. I leave before the conclave and leave with emptiness. There is anticipation for the next Pope, but there is sadness of having to say good-bye to "Papa." Memories of his glory are everywhere, which compounds the sorrow. Photos and memorabilia of the Pope are gracing the store windows, kiosks and street vendors. You cannot hide from his face. I almost look forward to leaving for Venice or Assisi – somewhere where the weight of his death is not as strong.

I feel privileged to have been here with journalists to learn more about the Vatican. I was able to observe on how we should coordinate the trip. I would do some things differently and some the same. The Pope’s death changed the focus of the trip and prevented us from meeting with the Cardinals, because they agreed not to talk to the media. It was educational and I have a good sense on what I can do..."

Diane

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Got this via email today. I don't know the source.

"Movie star MEL GIBSON is reportedly planning to follow his controversial THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST with a movie about the POPE JOHN PAUL II - who died this month (APR05) aged 84.

The deeply religious actor/director is the member of a strict Catholic sect called the 'Holy Family'.

According to American website PAGESIX.COM, Gibson dispatched a film crew to the Vatican City on Friday (08APR05) to capture crowd scenes at the late pontiff's funeral for future use.

The Passion Of The Christ scored massive success at the box office - despite allegations it is anti-Semitic - taking a reported $604 million (GBP318 million) at movie theatres worldwide.

Gibson was recently reported to be planning another religious epic - about three children who claimed to have seen a vision of the VIRGIN MARY in Fatima, Portugal, in 1917."

BTW, I've been to Fatima and would love to see a movie about the happenings during that time!

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That would be a good movie, esp. in Gibson's hands.

What I'd really like to see Gobson take-on is the story of Abraham. Three major religions claim him as their Godfoddah. It'd be more than interesting to watch the various mullahs issue fahtwahs, etc.