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Air&Road · #61 12-12-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter

When you survive a major kidney stone attack, get back to me.
Until then please excuse me for doubting.

For years I have consulted doctors all over the world, regarding this question.

The universal answer is; if you can block the pain it is not a critical attack or it is to late and the Kidney Ruptured = get to a hospital quick or die.

Amputating your own arm or leg with a dull pocket knife, soldering iron and no anesthetic is enormously less traumatic.

This is why military special forces are trained to stab the kidney for a silent kill.

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I will take this email to indicate that you are still in agony.

I hope you get past this soon!

whunter · #62 12-12-2011, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LarryBible

Has anyone heard from Roy? I sure hope he's past the problem and feeling better!

No, it has not passed yet.

Still sucks to be me, but I can think and talk without
David After Dentist - YouTube

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Found these
About Kidney Stones Pain - YouTube
Kidney Stones: Causes of Excruciating Pain (Dramatic Health) - YouTube
Kidney Stones = Pain - YouTube
Ryething in horrible ****en agony from a 5mm kidney stone (part 1) - YouTube
rything in horrible ****en agony from a 5mm kidney stone (part 2) - YouTube
Kidney Stone Part 2 - YouTube

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barry123400 · #63 12-12-2011, 10:13 PM

Roy, you are in the hands of a uroligist? I have the visual inspection of the interior of the bladder done once a year. If you can remember to not tense up your bladder muscle upon the insertion of the scope. There is nothing to it. I only wish they had told me this for the first time.

They regularily fish stones out as well this way. In your case they might put you to sleep. The first responsability of medicine is to remove or eliminate pain when possible.

Have they given you any time frame where they might intervene? Too much pain over too long of a time frame can become unbearable. Or when do you become a candidate for the sonic bath?

The Clk Man · #64 12-12-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by barry123400

Roy, you are in the hands of a uroligist? I have the visual inspection of the interior of the bladder done once a year. If you can remember to not tense up your bladder muscle upon the insertion of the scope. There is nothing to it. I only wish they had told me this for the first time.

They regularily fish stones out as well this way. In your case they might put you to sleep. The first responsability of medicine is to remove or eliminate pain when possible.

Have they given you any time frame where they might intervene? Too much pain over too long of a time frame can become unbearable. Or when do you become a candidate for the sonic bath?

Giggle Giggle..

neumann · #65 12-12-2011, 10:51 PM

My experience with kidney stones is the most excrusiating pain I have EVER experienced in my life. Last time I nearly went nuts at the ER after two hits of morphine and not even a dent in the pain. I would have cut my finger off to make it stop but I probably would not have even noticed that the finger was gone. I was laying on a gurney and trying to crawl up the wall with my legs to get into a comfortable position. After cursing out anyone and everyone within eye shot I was finally given something and it dropped me into never never land for about an hour and I must have pissed myself and passed the stone or whatever as the pain was gone. Someone called my wife, I don't remember how they got her number. Got home and slept for about 24 hours straight. I have had 4 episodes, they seem to go in 3 year cycles for me.

My thoughts and prayers for anyone with them!

whunter · #66 12-13-2011, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by barry123400

Roy, you are in the hands of a urologist? I have the visual inspection of the interior of the bladder done once a year. If you can remember to not tense up your bladder muscle upon the insertion of the scope. There is nothing to it. I only wish they had told me this for the first time.

They regularly fish stones out as well this way. In your case they might put you to sleep. The first responsibility of medicine is to remove or eliminate pain when possible.

Have they given you any time frame where they might intervene? Too much pain over too long of a time frame can become unbearable. Or when do you become a candidate for the sonic bath?

No insurance.
No urologist I trust at the moment.

layback40 · #67 12-13-2011, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whunter

No insurance.
No urologist I trust at the moment.

There will come a time Roy when you will have to trust some one with your private parts !!

chilcutt · #68 12-13-2011, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter

When you survive a major kidney stone attack, get back to me.
Until then please excuse me for doubting.

For years I have consulted doctors all over the world, regarding this question.

The universal answer is; if you can block the pain it is not a critical attack or it is to late and the Kidney Ruptured = get to a hospital quick or die.

Amputating your own arm or leg with a dull pocket knife, soldering iron and no anesthetic is enormously less traumatic.

This is why military special forces are trained to stab the kidney for a silent kill.

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'Silent kill' part not making sense.
If this pain you are experiancing is like you describe..it would sound more logical that someone being stabbed in a kidney would cry out in pain.
Unless of course a hand is placed over their mouth, stifeling the scream.
Then again, a human has 2 kidneys, just because 1 its inoperative shouldnt nessacarily mean the person will die.
Real life is not like a Hollyweird movie, where a person is shot or stabbed and they suddenly fall down and are dead.
Real death comes slowly, and agonizeingly.

I would think that slitting the throat, and letting the subject bleed-out, would be a more efficient-almost garenteed- form of execution.

whunter · #69 12-14-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chilcutt

'Silent kill' part not making sense.
If this pain you are experiencing is like you describe..it would sound more logical that someone being stabbed in a kidney would cry out in pain.
Unless of course a hand is placed over their mouth, stifling the scream.
Then again, a human has 2 kidneys, just because 1 its inoperative shouldn't necessarily mean the person will die.
Real life is not like a Hollyweird movie, where a person is shot or stabbed and they suddenly fall down and are dead.
Real death comes slowly, and agonizingly.

I would think that slitting the throat, and letting the subject bleed-out, would be a more efficient-almost guaranteed- form of execution.

I am in to much pain to argue, and that is all you seem to want.

whunter · #70 12-14-2011, 10:21 AM

Back on medium pain meds again.
The other kidney dropped a stone, size unknown.

Passing two at once, I would be pissed off "if I could"!!

Air&Road · #71 12-14-2011, 10:24 AM

Oh my gosh Roy!

I keep thinking I will see a post indicating a huge sigh of relief. I'm looking forward to such post, but I'm sure that I'm not looking as much forward to it as you are.

Hang in there!
Larry

barry123400 · #72 12-14-2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by whunter

No insurance.
No urologist I trust at the moment.

Well if not the pain I understand the bind. Hope it passes soon. I also agree that there are both good and questionable uroligists.

The good ones like mine are horrifically busy these days. Either the percentage of the older population is now greater or cancer is on the increase. I suspect it is a combination of both.

I do not suggest alcholisim but if a few drinks after work ease the current difficulty even a little I think I might consider the relief. Thats if you can even drag yourself into work right now. With the doctors permission of course.

If I were a uroligist I would exchange my services for car services with a good mechanic.Even if it were for only a string of oil changes over time. Why not as I probably would have all the money my family will ever need or be able to use already.

Something has been lost in the medical equation when doctors operate under a system that is so punative to a person in serious pain. This is not a time or situation to delve into universal medical care either . It has it's flaws as well.

I too have experienced pain at levels that dominate everything. Like the time that I was in an explosion. The pain grew exponentially until I stated either you put me under or I will soon become unconciouis from it. I was becoming apprehensive I might not pass out at that point.

The mind tends to forget the severity of it over time after it is gone. All I really remember is that it was so bad I could no longer stand it. They did put me under.

Understanding extreme ongoing pain is kind of an abstract concept to individuals until you have had it yourself.

elchivito · #73 12-14-2011, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilcutt

'Silent kill' part not making sense.
If this pain you are experiancing is like you describe..it would sound more logical that someone being stabbed in a kidney would cry out in pain.
Unless of course a hand is placed over their mouth, stifeling the scream.
Then again, a human has 2 kidneys, just because 1 its inoperative shouldnt nessacarily mean the person will die.
Real life is not like a Hollyweird movie, where a person is shot or stabbed and they suddenly fall down and are dead.
Real death comes slowly, and agonizeingly.

I would think that slitting the throat, and letting the subject bleed-out, would be a more efficient-almost garenteed- form of execution.

Good grief....

Hang in there Roy, we are all pulling for you. This scares the crap outta me I'll tell you that.