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Old 06-13-2006, 09:39 AM
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id go to managment. why should someone get paid for slacking or harrassing someone. and turn into a psyco like someone else mentioned and make him afraid of you to the point where if he threatens you again look him straight in the eyes and tell him his favorite chilli.. was his dog..

i do carry out at a grocery store.. bagging basicly the same thing you do and there are slackers but not bullies, just do your best dont stop, plus the good thing about being the hardworker.. you can be the one to take the groceries out to the hot chicks car that comes in once a week and score a phone number... you can do the same..

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Old 06-13-2006, 09:41 AM
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Bide your time. He sounds like management material, and a promotion is imminent.
lmao.

The only reason this guy is doing this to you is because you are letting him. Either make a stand or walk away. He'll keep taunting/abusing you for as long as he thinks he can get away with it.
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Old 06-13-2006, 09:54 AM
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lmao.

The only reason this guy is doing this to you is because you are letting him. Either make a stand or walk away. He'll keep taunting/abusing you for as long as he thinks he can get away with it.
Yup -- exactly right.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:17 AM
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Cool Enlist aid!

Get a couple of friends, real friends, from work -- or better still, people he doesn't know. Tail him home or to a bar. Then you and your friends thump him around a little in the parking lot. If he sees you, that's okay; it'll let him know you mean business. And if he puts a complaint in on you at work or with the cops, you have your friends to give you an alibi.

Just don't cripple him. You want him able to come back to work and do his share.

Okay, the above is partly tongue-in-cheek. But face it: If things were reversed, would a guy like him hesitate to come after *you* with reinforcements? If it's the only language he understands, maybe you need to take some lessons in it -- and teach him how to conjugate a few verbs, if you catch my drift. . . .

Seriously: Complain to management. Those harassment laws are supposed to protect men too.

If that doesn't work, see above suggestions.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:30 AM
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This thread has gotten kind of funny. Mob-stylie!
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:33 AM
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Okay, the above is partly tongue-in-cheek. But face it: If things were reversed, would a guy like him hesitate to come after *you* with reinforcements? If it's the only language he understands, maybe you need to take some lessons in it -- and teach him how to conjugate a few verbs, if you catch my drift. . . .
And what happens next time those reinforcements aren't around? Better to stand up for yourself -- even if you wind up gettin' your ass kicked.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:37 AM
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Hate to tell you guys, but no lawyer is going to file a claim on this unless it is hourly, otherwise I would have suggested it. Also, if you did file a claim, it would take forever to work out, and the damages would be nothing.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:56 AM
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Nate -- this guy sounds like a royal prick. I have known my share of them, too. Another angle: if you can, ignore the jackazz. Karma's a *****, and his number will be up before long. If you feel confident that you could defend yourself, then by all means, stand up for yourself and establish some respect, but there's also no shame in realizing that you can't win every battle. Unless you're Chuck Norris, there's always someone who can kick your a$$. If you do have a few of your friends beat him, be prepared to accept a beating from him and/or his friends when you're least expecting it. If you can handle that possibility, more power to you -- get physical. Personally, I'd worry too much about what he'd do to my car, house, etc... but I'm a worry wart. I might coax karma along a bit (go to his house at 3am and remove the valve cores from his tire stems when he has to work early the next day, for instance). In the meantime, suck it up at work and do your job well. If that place is worth two bits, someone will take note of your initiative and karma will treat you WELL!

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Old 06-13-2006, 10:58 AM
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While I don’t recommend the following, it has been known to be very effective. Make a plan. As example, first, offer the bad guy a “peace offering” consisting of brownies, made by “yer mom” but which contain a large volume of some chocolate flavored laxative. Perhaps you could say something like, “sorry dude, we got off on a bad start. Here’s a peace offering. Enjoy!” Don’t give him too much as you want no evidence left over, or even worse, you don’t want “Derrick” to give anyone some of the brownies.

Then, consider talking with your manager. Think about if you want the job enough to do this: If you talk with the manger, tell the manager of the repeated bullying, harassment and assaults, the laziness of the guy, and relay to the manager that if the guy isn’t stopped that you’ll get your family’s attorney to talk with the manager. Also read the estimated time to effect on the box the laxative came in. If you time it right, the manager will be talking with “Derrick” about the time the laxative hits.

I also agree with the others that the job isn’t worth this effort. Note that if you do give him tanted brownies, you are effectively poisoning the guy. There are severe risks associated with doing this, if you are caught

You are obviously motivated, and will have little or no problem finding another job. Another significant point in all of this is that if you have the talk with your manager, it is possible that the conversation will be noted somewhere, and if you refer back to this place for a reference, that could come up.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:01 AM
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Nine times out of ten, the willingness to stand up for yourself is all that's required. Bullies are cowards, and more times than not, will back down from any real possibility of confrontation.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:13 AM
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Nine times out of ten, the willingness to stand up for yourself is all that's required. Bullies are cowards, and more times than not, will back down from any real possibility of confrontation.
This is true. I think you have to be willing to fight this guy. When I was younger I faced a similar situation once and when I made it clear I would fight the guy, the problem went away. To my surprise I didn't even have to fight him, he just backed down. Of course, you might not want to do it at work if you like your job...

Hey, worst case scenario is you lose a fight, which is nothing in the grand scheme of things. If you think he would try to use some sort of weapon, pick your time and place carefully.

Good luck! People like this are real *****s and fortunately, time seems to weed them out as it goes on.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:47 AM
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This thread has gotten kind of funny. Mob-stylie!
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:58 AM
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Not that I'd recommend it, but a friend of mine had to deal with a guy like this at his workplace many, many moons ago. My friend isn't a confrontational guy at all, but he came from money, so he could afford to play with the guy a bit as follows. He ordered, paid in full, a year's subscription to Blue Boy magazine (an apparently very graphic gay publication), among a slew of others, and had them all delivered to his workplace in the "bad guy's" name. This fellow was married, so he also sent a few subscriptions home, and ordered a couple of "toys" from the back of another questionable gay men's magazine, which put this guy on every pervert's mailing list in the country and made waves between he and his wife.

Please note that by sharing this, I am NOT condoning homphobia, but if your "bad guy" is a raging homphobe, it might be fun to watch him explain all that stuff away. Even better if he lives with his folks!
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:01 PM
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I loved the "talk about your hunting trip and gun collection" advice. Don't just read gun magazines, let him see you reading Soldier of Fortune. Then leave a few Polaroids of his house, car, family members, pets, etc where he will be able to find them. Wear gloves when handling the pictures and envelope. If he asks if it was you, tell him you have to go now because the voices are telling you to clean your guns.
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Old 06-13-2006, 01:04 PM
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Not that I'd recommend it, but a friend of mine had to deal with a guy like this at his workplace many, many moons ago. My friend isn't a confrontational guy at all, but he came from money, so he could afford to play with the guy a bit as follows. He ordered, paid in full, a year's subscription to Blue Boy magazine (an apparently very graphic gay publication), among a slew of others, and had them all delivered to his workplace in the "bad guy's" name. This fellow was married, so he also sent a few subscriptions home, and ordered a couple of "toys" from the back of another questionable gay men's magazine, which put this guy on every pervert's mailing list in the country and made waves between he and his wife.
now thats a good idea.. the big one would be hire a male stripper to show up at his house...

farm and fleet is like tractor supply co right?? well take a tape measure and measure his feet.. if he ask why tell him your sizing him for some new concrete nike's

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