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raymr · #61 07-24-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Yes, what of it? Giving to charity is NOT an obligation like walking the dog. Whether it gives a person joy to extend a helping hand is inconsequential to certain questions. However, to the question of whether they get repayment, it is important.

If Warren Buffet had given 40 bil to charities in a quiet way that doesn't attract attention, how did you know about it? He will not see the money back in payback or favors. However, as I ahve said before, he gets paid back in a different coin. You know of it and probably admire him for it. IOW, he has bought recognition and admiration with his 40 bil. Is it worth it to me? Absoultely not. To him, probably. Some people use their money to buy favors, others buy admiration and recognition and others buy property.

I am not against charities or giving. However, if you want to accuse people of alturism, you had best make sure they are not getting paid in ANY way, shape or form otherwise it is not truely alturistic. As they said in OJ's case "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit." You have accused the human race of alturism and it doesn't fit as long as they get a payback in ANY form. Payback is not limited to repayment of the money, favors, sex, etc, etc.

So there ya go. You saw how ugly the world was so you made adjustments, and now you are part of the thing you once hated. The capitalistic tit-for-tat shallowness now controls and consumes your very existence. Mission complete. Maybe you should let go a little, let the pendulum slide just a tiny bit in the other direction. Thoughts of utopian socialism should help soften your pragmatic delivery anyway.

aklim · #62 07-24-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by raymr

So there ya go. You saw how ugly the world was so you made adjustments, and now you are part of the thing you once hated. The capitalistic tit-for-tat shallowness now controls and consumes your very existence. Mission complete. Maybe you should let go a little, let the pendulum slide just a tiny bit in the other direction. Thoughts of utopian socialism should help soften your pragmatic delivery anyway.

I don't hate it or like it. It just is. Kinda like the sun rising in the east. It shines in my bedroom window. It just is. I believe it is silly to play by a set of rules when everyone or most everyone else plays by a different set. Kinda like pool. Sometimes, we don't have to call the pocket we are aiming for and with some people, they want you to call it. If the rules of that game are such that as long as your ball goes in and it counts, why bother to call and peanilize yourself.

raymr · #63 07-24-2006, 02:43 PM

Its all good man.

Seems like we're the only 2 that give half a crap about this thread anyways.

Dee8go · #64 07-24-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr

Feeling good about doing something is often just a side benefit and not the goal, as you often use sex in your analogies. Hopefully you see the distinction between having sex with a hooker, and shoveling granny's driveway. Paying for physical sensations is not the same as assisting someone in need. Sorry.

I personally detest sex in all its many forms. However, if there are any good-looking but physically unsatisfied women out there, I will do whatever I can. . . .

Kuan · #65 07-24-2006, 04:02 PM

Well since I started it I feel I have to offer up one last thought before the whole thread crashes and burns. So here's my point of debate.

In my experience, its seems like there's a correlation the attitude one takes towards money and giving. ie., more conservative, less giving. Less conservative, more giving. It has nothing to do with wealth, or lack thereoff. So why is giving a part of every financial plan? Because it trains one to believe, in that oh so metaphorical way that our parents always put it, that money does indeed grow on trees. It teaches us to be financial optimists, and makes us literaly believe that it is really just money.

Thoughts?