Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 11-29-2006, 08:31 AM
Gilly's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Evansville WI
Posts: 9,618
No idea what you mean by "sea change", never heard that that I am aware of.
Gilly

Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-29-2006, 10:30 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Rockville MD
Posts: 833
How about the terrible act of nouning verbs:

"I'm doing the install now."
"We'll send you an invite."
__________________
1985 380SE Blue/Blue - 230,000 miles
2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-29-2006, 10:38 AM
Carleton Hughes's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,612
Quote:
Originally Posted by raymr View Post
How about the terrible act of nouning verbs:

"I'm doing the install now."
"We'll send you an invite."
"Thank you much."
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-29-2006, 01:01 PM
cmac2012's Avatar
Me, Myself, and I
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 37,805
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
No idea what you mean by "sea change", never heard that that I am aware of.
Gilly
Not sure how that one crept into usage. It "means," best I can tell, a huge, era-ending sort of change, such that "things won't never be the same again, no how."

Oh, here we go. Don't get me wrong, I'm not wild about the term/phrase but here's a better explanation:

[Q] From Dave Donnelly in Hawaii: “The phrase sea change appears frequently in both books and newspapers, and the only definition I’ve been able to find for it is that it is a transformation. How did the phrase come about and why?”

[A] The phrase is a quotation from Shakespeare. It comes from Ariel’s wonderfully evocative song in The Tempest:

Full fathom five thy father lies:
Of his bones are coral made:
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.

Shakespeare obviously meant that the transformation of the body of Ferdinand’s father was made by the sea, but we have come to refer to a sea change as being a profound transformation caused by any agency. So pundits and commentators who think it has something to do with the ebb and flow of the tide, and use it for a minor or recurrent shift in policy or opinion, are doing a grave injustice to one of the most evocative phrases in the language. I wish a figurative full fathom five to such people.

The point at which it stopped being a direct quotation and turned into an idiom is hard to pin down, though it seems to have happened only in the latter part of the nineteenth century. The Oxford English Dictionary finds the first allusive use in one of Ezra Pound’s poems from 1917. But examples can be found a little earlier than that, as in The Great White Wall by Julian Hawthorne, dated 1877: “Three centuries ago, according to my porter, a sea-change happened here which really deserves to be called strange”.

And it’s odd that it seems to be a rare example of a hyphenated phrase that’s losing its hyphen: all the modern dictionaries I’ve consulted have it as two words with not a hyphen in sight.

World Wide Words is copyright © Michael Quinion, 1996–2006.
All rights reserved. Contact the author for reproduction requests.
Comments and feedback are always welcome.
Page created 25 March 2000.

From: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-sea1.htm
__________________
Te futueo et caballum tuum

1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-29-2006, 04:28 PM
cmac2012's Avatar
Me, Myself, and I
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 37,805
Quote:
Originally Posted by raymr View Post
How about the terrible act of nouning verbs:

"I'm doing the install now."
"We'll send you an invite."
Verbing nouns is not too smooth either. IMO, verbing weirds language.

The producers greenlighted Ted’s script.

Will "to podium" succeed as a mainstream verb, following in the tracks of "to medal," or will it find itself back on the sports-jargon shelf?

Microsoft is headquartered in ...

We must incent people ro work harder.

You'll have to excuse me now. I need to go breakfast with a friend.
__________________
Te futueo et caballum tuum

1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 11-29-2006, 04:59 PM
Stressed Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Florida Big Bend region
Posts: 721
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmac2012 View Post
Verbing nouns is not too smooth either. IMO, verbing weirds language.
Too funny, cmac!

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmac2012 View Post
You'll have to excuse me now. I need to go breakfast with a friend.
I think the use of "breakfast" as a verb has been around for a lot longer than either of us, old son. Don't sweat it.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-29-2006, 05:13 PM
cmac2012's Avatar
Me, Myself, and I
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 37,805
I think you're right on that last one. Now if we can only incentivize people to stop using it.
__________________
Te futueo et caballum tuum

1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-29-2006, 09:23 PM
LaRondo's Avatar
Rondissimo
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: West Coast
Posts: 162
... I'm going to be going ... that said ... what's the problem ...?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-29-2006, 09:25 PM
LaRondo's Avatar
Rondissimo
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: West Coast
Posts: 162
There's a psychic reader located on the beach in Malibu called 'Sea Change' ...
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11-29-2006, 09:51 PM
cmac2012's Avatar
Me, Myself, and I
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Redwood City, CA
Posts: 37,805
Yahoo returned a lot of hits on "sea change." Having said that, I think it's trended into the mainstream a bit too quickly.
__________________
Te futueo et caballum tuum

1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 11-30-2006, 12:18 AM
Botnst's Avatar
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: There castle.
Posts: 44,587
I could care less about the sea changing paradigm shift. Our ducks are in a row and we are coming into port with Six Sigma.

We need to break through the glass ceiling and network a new community.

B
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11-30-2006, 12:26 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Rockville MD
Posts: 833
Quote:
Originally Posted by Botnst View Post
I could care less about the sea changing paradigm shift. Our ducks are in a row and we are coming into port with Six Sigma.

We need to break through the glass ceiling and network a new community.

B
I'll run that up the flagpole.

__________________
1985 380SE Blue/Blue - 230,000 miles
2012 Subaru Forester 5-speed
2005 Toyota Sienna
2004 Chrysler Sebring convertible
1999 Toyota Tacoma
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page