Sikh and ye shall find.

If you would quit with the name-calling and stop acting childish and actually answer all the points that I have brought up, maybe we will all be enlightened. OK, let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say that NONE of this stuff is in Hinduism. Can you honestly say that these things that I have mentioned Do NOT exist in the Indian Hindu society and culture? Actually I have been extremely conservative by mentioning only a very few of the evils that affect the Indian Hindu society. Pretty much none of the above exists in the Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Indian society.
Just explain and enlighten us. Do not take this personally as I NEVER singled you out.
Are you going to come on here and tell us all that all of this is actually BS and that nothing like what I have posted exists? Get real I have nothing against Hindus but I do always speak out against atrocities and Hindus have been involved in atrocities for 1000s of years and their treatment of their own women is a testament to it.
BTW, I do have many Hindu friends as well as professionals with whom I work. They all gladly discuss this with me and it is thru them that I know all these things about the Indian culture and their mistreatment of all non-Hindus. Most Hindus that I know living in America are ashamed to tell people that they are in fact Hindus and when asked about their religions, will actually call themselves a Christian.

And why is it that anytime Hindus are asked simple questions about their religion or culture they get so defensive? BE PROUD OF YOUR RELIGION and culture. Discuss it and enlighten the other party. Don't resort to name-calling. Also, if you would notice, I never asked Gurka anything, right Gurka? I don't even know you nor have I had a chance to really read any of your posts. I'm new here, look at the number of posts that I have posted. You sure know how to make someone feel welcome.

Majority of Hindus in USA proudly proclaim themselves so, the fact that there are some huge Hindu temples in US, UK ( which has the largest Hindu temple on earth ) and elsewhere speaks of their affinity to the faith.

Now about ills, don't' get me started on Islam and Christianity, there is just not enough space in this forum for that, the fact that the church has encouraged gay priests and even secretly condoned their activities, also prevented women from being priests which speaks of the view of the church on women, the fact that Mary Magdalene is still a taboo topic in Christianity is another prime example of Christianity in action, since the inception of monasteries, many of them have been involved in prostituting the nuns, you still have practices like marrying off young virgin girls to Christ, how ridiculous, lets not even forget the witch burning era or the conquistadors. About Islam, the fact is out in the open every day, in name of religion, kill the non believers, at least in Hinduism, the powerful figures are all females, more so than males. Classifying social ills as a matter of faith is typical act of someone who truly has no idea about the subject in general.


Do you know why some Hindus in US when asked by a Christian about their faith declare themselves to be Christian, its to avoid nonsense like the one you post above, if he or she tells them of their faith, right away a Christian assumes its his/her solemn duty to show the non believer the path of light aka Christ, just to avoid nuisance and stupid moronic questions like the Linga or Ma Kali, they wisely declare them Christians, in company of a person like you, I would do so too, just to avoid a royal PITA.

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Whats their to discuss with a hate filled person, your post makes 86% of Indians who are incidentally Hindus to be some bad bunch of humans straight out of a Evangelist Christian propaganda science fiction. You are new here, and you should stay new, Botnst started this post and responded with civility, learn how to post like him and others here, don't spew your ill informed hatred propaganda here, for that, there is always the pulpit and a white hood.

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This topic is neither about Christains, muslims, nor Jews. It is about Hindus. Kindly explain why Seeta's word was not taken and she had to walk through fire to prove her innocence. I would definitely link this religious teaching of Hinduism to the mistreatment of women in India today. If your Gods didn't treat their female counterparts equal, how are you as a society who believe in these Gods expected to do so? This is the cause of the fact that Indian woman are second class citizens and this is the reason for pretty much everything that I posted in my first post on this thread. Should I copy and paste it again for you? Are you going to stop with the name-calling or are you actually going to answer the thread and enlighten us?
In order to be a little more productive, why don't you do us all a favor and dissect every single line that I wrote in the original post and try to give us the reasons why it is or why it isn't so.
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Gurka, I don't know why you are so pissed off. Have I not posted things that are practiced WIDELY in the Indian culture? If I have posted one thing wrong then point it out and I will prove it! FORGET RELIGION! Let's say that this is NOT a part of Hinduism. OK, I will say that none of this is a part of Hinduism. Now YOU tell me, Are these things not extremely common in the everyday life of Indians? Instead of rambling on here and try to save face of your country and culture, would the energy that you are wasting not be better served trying to change the corrupted and uneducated minds of the people in your country?
Going back and forth does not accomplish anything. Just disprove me and my post and this discussion will end immediately. Do all these things that I have posted exist in the Indian society or not? You are a very educated person from what I see in your profile. You of all people should not get into this back and forth game.

Besides, I did not enter into a discussion with you about this issue, you entered into it with me. I merely posted what goes on in your country that most of the world does not get exposed to. We here in America are a clear as the glass. Everybody can see right through us. What we are in front of the world is what we Americans are in private. What you see about us on TV is what we are. We are completely exposed and we don't try to hide anything nor any evils of our society. I guess that is why Americans are so far ahead of the rest of the world.

The topic is now about all religions and their ills since you singled out Hinduism as an evil cult, and while you are at it, why not declare your faith either or are you truly ashamed of it and hiding it.

Women are used as sex objects in west in every form, thats mistreatment as well, need I remind you what the Islamic world does with women, social ills are everywhere, don't' link it with faith and insult others sentiments, thats the bigoted part of you and your upbringing.

About Sita, Ram lost her for good after the test, it was the part of curse when Ram killed Bali, Bali's wife cursed Ram that he would never have a wife since he took her husband away and made her a widow. About Indian women, you certainly have no idea, the educated, upper middle and upper class women as well as middle class enjoy and wield far more power than you would get elsewhere, we had a woman prime minster, today, a foreign woman who is not even a Hindu is at the top of the country's politics and there is no opposition to it, more Indian women go for higher studies than elsewhere, raise your hood and read. Please don't read jaundiced Christian sponsored hate filled propaganda and then spread it across. Years back, women were allowed to select their own partners as well as keep more than one husbands as in Mahabharata's Draupadi. About Shiva's Linga, Hinduism celebrates sex and doesn't hide it, you will see it openly depicted in temples, unlike others who believe in repressing it leading to all sorts of perversions as we can see in the news.

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You are wrong in every sense, if we are to put your post in context, there are many practices here in US which are worse than anything, but they are social ills.

I dont' have to use my energy on Hindus or Indians, I would rather put everything I have against people like yourself, hate mongers. You still haven't declared your faith. Whats the matter? Afraid.

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These facts that you read are a twisted and racist propaganda of people with ulterior motives, as for transparency, we all know how transparent US is, lets not even get into that. Btw, in India, criticizing ones faith and its practices will not get that person ostracized, rather its actively encouraged, thats what makes the Hindu faith so dynamic and it manages to survive throughout all the history's onslaughts from Islam and Christianity.


You certainly are no an American, you are of course the Hoodman.

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I didn't single out Hinduism as an evil cult. As I recall this thread was about India and the Indian society/culture. I merely added some preversions that exist and the evil that exists in Hinduism which is the cause of the society and the culture to be the way it is and I listed the religion as the instigator and if you read my first sentence it some something like this: ".........and given that each religion has some pretty fcuked up stuff in it, Hinduism by far is the most (for a lack of a better word) FCUKED up in my opinion."
Again you are babling on and on but you are really not answering the qustion.

I do not need a religion to follow nor do I follow any. Anything wrong in that?

Still, the name calling. You are still after that words Hinduism and Religion. I have already told you that let's say it is NOT a part of Hinduism as a religion. Is is not a part of your culture then?

Yep, hiding, totally ashamed of your faith As I thought so, you don't have the guts, the only reason you post here is to spew out your hatred.

How can Hinduism be ****ed up when of all the faiths, Hinduism and its offshoot, Buddhism never assumes that another person is in darkness so therefore by hook or crook or by sword, that person needs to change his/her faith. From what I see, Hinduism and most Oriental way of faith is the least ****ED up as you put it. They see no need for coercion or the filthy practice of proselytizing.

As for your questions, stop ranting like a rabies infected person, have answered all of them to my knowledge, as for social ills existing, they are everywhere, and I mean all over the world, darkness and illiteracy and not knowing the true meaning of faith leads to that. Tell me one place which doesn't have social ills, please don't say its US of A.

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