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Old 01-19-2008, 12:14 AM
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Having to make payments to a credit union for a + or - 15k used Mercedes V12 R129 means that the sucker/owner probably couldn't afford any repairs or regular service schedules or very much fuel. Hence the low miles, IMHO.

The car is a worthless pos, even a bodyshop owner wouldn't fix it, there is zero profit margin to be had on it. Even if the car was free, it would cost way more than it's worth to buy the parts to fix it, and the last time I checked, a Glasurit paint job costs around 6k alone.

But hey, at least it's the right color for a pimp daddy... green is for the money/gold is for the honey's.


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Old 01-19-2008, 12:37 AM
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What a shame... I got my Corvette as a result of a similar incident. Since the fiberglass doesn't respond well to pummeling, she resorted to scratching the F word all over the car and actually punched a hole in the door, probably with a screwdriver.

I was able to get the car for a song and put a couple grand into body work and a new interior.
I have an '84 Corvette that I bought from the back row of a used car lot, I paid less for it than most people do for a average w123 300D, and with the price of diesel, it costs the same to drive the Vette. It gets 24mpg on the highway on 87 ocatne.

It has nice paint and a decent interior, but the po somehow destroyed the shifter and steering wheel, plus it was very hard to start. I took a gamble, and it paid off. The HEI rotor button had shorted to ground, causing the no start/hard start. Thanks to fleabay, I bought a used steering wheel and shifter for less than $100. Thanks to the po for the new tires, exhaust, ac repairs, and cd player I am enjoying right now.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:09 AM
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Bah my uncle has a super mint 86 Vette and I wouldn't take it if he gave it to me. My friend had a pretty mint 1991 back in HS (great car for a 17 year old BTW!) which would do some amazing burn outs, but it was cheap.

They are OK in a straight line and turn in decent enough, but the brakes are a joke, the interiors are made out of melted down action men, and the body was put together by blind chimps.

We raced the 1991 Vette against my other friends 1993 735IL...the BMW held its own...and was actualy a decent car!

I guess if you can get one for damn near free, it might be OK. But they are a freaken joke.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:28 AM
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The 1984-1996 Corvette C4 can pull 1g with good tires. I doubt even an M3 could do that. While the interior quality leaves something to be desired if not maintained, the brakes are better than what's on most german cars of the same time period. Try, aluminum four piston calipers by Girlock in the front plus Bosch ABS. Not to mention a Corvette has something no German car has, real air conditioning.
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Old 01-19-2008, 01:39 AM
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Well my uncles 86 with brand new discs, pads all around, and rebuilt front calipers, with stainless lines...had less bite then the brakes of pretty much any MB, my W126 actualy. As far as interior "quality" his is a 35k mile pampered garage queen, and everything is falling apart... The old MB's had very poor AC, but the newer ones certianly don't.

As for handling I have no doubt, I'm sure with the right tires and set up properly it can post very impressive skid pad numbers, and track times.

But I don't normaly drive my cars at 1g on the track, I drive at 40mph on local roads. I find something like any MB a much more pleasent place to be.

The best sports car I have ever driven (so far) was a late model Porsche 911. Very light and crisp feeling, excellent quality in all regards, amazing brakes, can't really fualt the damn thing except on price.
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Old 01-19-2008, 06:45 AM
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will a V-12 fit into my w123?
No problem....the swap can be done in a weekend!

Seriously the engine probably would fit, but sorting the electronics and such would be a daunting task.

Have you been following roncallo's 107 600 project?

I imagine it would be about the same.

In this case I would say I would do the chebby first, but if I wanted a bigger motor in a 123 I would prob go with a mb 500 euro.

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Old 01-19-2008, 07:14 AM
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Or, I saw a pompous a$$hat driving a 560 Mercedes and now all 560SEC drivers are pompous a$$hats.
^^^Just another episode from Moron Theatre.
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^^^Just another episode from Moron Theatre.
"No Basil, no..... It would be murder"
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:13 PM
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Hello, I am TUSABES (the person who is listing this car on ebay)

Jim B. let me know that this car is being discussed online so I figured I would post here for anyone who is interested in this car.

I met Jim the other day and we had a nice chat about cars and took him for a ride in this car. It is definitely a project ideal for a bodyman (swap out the hood fenders doors and trunk with a parts car, repaint etc). It would not be cost effective to make it perfect, but could be a cheap daily driver if you dont mind imperfections. All the damage is cosmetic. They did not get into the engine compartment, trunk, etc. It would also be an excellent parts car for anyone who needs mechanical parts, as its low mileage.

My idea if I was to keep it, was just leave it as is , debadge it and race it for pink slips =) yes its fast. The v12s pull like a freight train and dont let up.
I took some videos of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJsNDY1mTI4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyLZlv9tGXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4KDgnGQ3w

And anyone is more than welcome to come see it in person. If there is a more appropriate place to advertise this car in this forum, kindly let me know. I would like to find a legitimate buyer (so many deadbeats and time wasters on ebay) and preferably a Mercedes enthusiast who appreciates these cars.
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Old 01-20-2008, 04:06 AM
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Ahh, those SL600 videos remind m of my dads car..
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Old 01-20-2008, 10:31 AM
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Um no I'd rather buy one that wasn't thrashed for $15k-$20k, thanks anyway.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:19 PM
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Here is how the story finally ended up!!

I actually saw and drove the car in Mid January and got an email today, the relevant portion of which stated this:

Hi Jim,

Just wanted to say hello and update you on the green sl600. It finally sold (after the first auction had a deadbeat bidder) for $5200. Pretty good deal for someone who knows bodywork.





The seller (George) was cool, and that ^^^^ is the proof.

He told me he just bought a 2000 CL 500 to replace this car.
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Old 03-13-2008, 08:43 PM
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I looked long and hard at that SL and was sorely tempted. If it had been closer to home I might have bit for no more reason than I love the 129's and a 600 would be a welcome addition. In real life though, the actual cost to fix the car properly would have been astronomical. I have yet been able to buy a wreck and make money on it because I insist on fixing them properly. They call them totals for a good reason.
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Old 03-13-2008, 10:00 PM
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Oh yeah that car was no deal, you can buy a good one for $15k.

Its either a good parts car, or a good project car for someone who wants a project.

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