I think Oprah Winfrey should have run. The we could have had President who is BOTH Female and Black.
I think her real chance of winning would be only a little less than Billary or Obama.

Quite possible, albeit, sadly true.

I wish that the American people would get over thier love of celebrity. Celebrity merely means someone is popular, well known, maybe well-liked. It does not show fitness for any task, any any particular talent for managing people or solving problems.
There is a difference.

As for Edwards....he of ALL candidates is the worst possible person. Remember he got his money as a trial lawyer, ruining the Obstetrics profession by "channeling" unborn babies, scream,ing in pain. Hw played on parents' and jurors' emotions and damned an entire profession. Ever wonder why there are so few OB GYN's anymore? Blame it all directly on Mr. Edwards.
I also object to his lecturing all of us to make do with less, and economize while he lives high and well. Lest you think I am merely jealous of his welath, let me state that wealth is good; I wish I had more money. I am thankful that there are rich people who invest and take risks in order to grow the economy ( and their personal wealth). What I object to is the moralizing from a man who refuses to practice what he preaches. he is as bad as any TV preacher who gets caught in adultery--hypocrites both!

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I couldn't follow your mention of obgyn's channeling etc.

Could you provide more info, please?

Tom W

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Speaking of Hillary, I heard her campaign is running low on Money for super Tuesday and she's rolling out a new campaign to raise funds.

Warning: a little offensive & sexist.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRJiP4f_EU

Full disclosure: Of the three Dem's she's the one who I would find least objectionable. (Not to be considered a ringing endoresent.)

Timely, from today's WSJ

Obama's Clinton Education
January 23, 2008; Page A24
One of our favorite Bill Clinton anecdotes involves a confrontation he had with Bob Dole in the Oval Office after the 1996 election. Mr. Dole protested Mr. Clinton's attack ads claiming the Republican wanted to harm Medicare, but the President merely smiled that Bubba grin and said, "You gotta do what you gotta do."

We're reminded of that story listening to Barack Obama protest his treatment by the now ex-President Clinton on behalf of his wanna-be-President wife. "You know the former President, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling," Mr. Obama told a TV interviewer. "He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts -- whether it's about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organizing in Las Vegas."


Now he knows how the rest of us feel.

The Illinois Senator is still a young man, but not so young as to have missed the 1990s. He nonetheless seems to be awakening slowly to what everyone else already knows about the Clintons, which is that they will say and do whatever they "gotta" say or do to win. Listen closely to Mr. Obama, and you can almost hear the echoes of Bob Dole at the end of the 1996 campaign asking, "Where's the outrage?"

This has been the core of the conservative critique of the Clintons for years. So it is illuminating to hear the same critique coming from Mr. Obama and his supporters now that his candidacy poses a threat to the return of the Clinton dynasty. Even Democrats are now admitting the Clintons don't tell the truth -- at least until Mrs. Clinton wins the nomination.

Mr. Obama's two examples are instructive because they are so wonderfully Clintonian. On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, Mr. Clinton attacked Mr. Obama's claims of having opposed the Iraq war all along as a "fairy tale." This is a tough charge coming from a two-term Democratic President in a Democratic primary, and it probably helped turn some voters against Mr. Obama.

But it was also a classic distortion intended to turn voter attention away from his wife's own Iraq fairy tale. She's the candidate who voted for the war and backed it for years before she decided she had to be sort of against it, only to later become really against it, and now to favor a withdrawal starting in 60 days. We think Mr. Obama is dangerously wrong about Iraq, but compared to Mrs. Clinton he's a model of consistency.

Then there's Mr. Clinton's moaning before Saturday's Nevada caucuses that his wife's supporters were being strong-armed by pro-Obama unions at casino voting sites. Clinton campaign allies sued and lost on the matter, and the former President sounded like a Chicago ward heeler as he told reporters about the Obama campaign's voter-intimidation tactics. Yet on the day of the vote Mrs. Clinton won at seven of the nine casino sites, and the Obama campaign was left asking if its vote had been suppressed. It wouldn't be the first time Mr. Clinton accused an opponent of doing something his own campaign was planning to do.

Some in the press corps argue that Mr. Clinton's attacks are hurting his wife. But if they were, he'd stop. His behavior is part of the familiar Clinton playbook of letting others do the dirty work so the candidate can stay above the fray. Hillary and other surrogates took on the task of saving her husband from his lies under oath by inventing the specter of the "vast right-wing conspiracy," calling Paula Jones trailer trash, and portraying the widely respected Ken Starr as a rabid partisan.

Now Bill is returning the favor by attacking Mr. Obama; at the same time, other surrogates raise his long-ago cocaine use, only to apologize after it's been widely reported. News reports also say that so-called robo-calls in Nevada repeatedly referred to Mr. Obama by his middle name, "Hussein." And emails suddenly appeared last week on Jewish lists accusing the African-American Senator of being fond of Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Obama had to disavow Mr. Farrakhan and his associates.

Meanwhile, Mrs. Clinton can claim to disapprove of these attacks, and even assert that she herself is being unfairly picked on by the media because she's a woman. She wants to make the primary contest about race and gender, rather than about Mr. Obama's larger, more inspiring message of change. She can then diminish Mr. Obama and make the choice a trench fight for the votes of typical Democratic constituencies. You gotta do what you gotta do.

"I understand him wanting to promote his wife's candidacy," Mr. Obama added on Sunday, referring to Bill Clinton. "She's got a record that she can run on. But I think it's important that we try to maintain some -- you know, level of honesty and candor during the course of the campaign. If we don't, then we feed the cynicism that has led so many Americans to be turned off to politics."

Welcome to the education of Barack Obama.

Tom W
Unless my memory is failing ( and that is a distinct possibility) Edwards made his fortune as a trial lawyer, prosecuting OB-GYN s for any and every form of birth defect. he even acted out the pain of the child durimg delivery for the jury--as in when forceps were required. He blamed every delivery that was not perfect on the attending physicians as if they should be able to foresee and correct every eventuality.
It might be considered good lawyering in some circles. I find it beneath contempt.

Here is a link to one of many similar stories:
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200401\POL20040120a.html

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I thought birth defects were beyond the control of the doctor.

Trial lawyers are about all that stands between us and the unbridled greed of big corporate business.

Tom W

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I don't think the country will ever be ready for a black or woman president. I don't think the South was ready to give up segregation. It will never happen once the country is ready. When it happens, it will happen and the country will have to deal.

Obama IMO is the best candidate running, and has even slightly penetrated my cynicism.
He is well aware of the Clintons tactics, and I think he did a decent job defending himself, but not as good a job as he could've, and didn't go on the offensive enough. I think the Clintons are pushing a little too hard, and the media constantly talking about it could backfire a bit.


I don't think he has skeletons in his closet, or at least any big ones. His biggest problem is that he hasn't voted on much. He doesn't have a long Senate record, and I didn't care much about his state record. He is a big threat to the Republicans, bigger than Hillary because he will be hard to 'Swift boat'.

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For two years I have been pitching Joe Biden & Barack Obama. Now that Biden had dropped out of the race, I am pitching Obama-Biden.

I agree the country is “ready” for a black or woman president. Clinton is Not that woman, but Obama could be that Black - - IF he is partnered with someone of Joe Biden’s stature.

If Obama wins the Democratic nomination, his running mate will determine whether he becomes president. No one else but Biden makes any sense (at least to me).

If Clinton is nominated, it will guarantee a Republican victory, despite how lame and crazy the Repub. candidates are.

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Funny, I thought Richardson/Obama was a pretty good team when the whole race started. Biden says stupid things and is too Washington for me. Richardson unfortunately spent too much time talking about issues and telling people what they need to hear and not what they want to hear.

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Biden has the foreign policy experience which is so sorely needed. Yes, he is Washington, but also very pragmatic.

Prior to latching onto Biden, I thought the ideal candidate would be "the governor of some western state." Richardson definitely fits the bill.

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a candidate will get elected. There will prognostications of great calamity or joy. The nation will endure.

The bottom feeders are also one of the primary reasons our errors & omissions and health insurance premiums are as high as they are.

Jim

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Don't be so sure of that, you might very well be eating your words in 10 months.

I've had enough of the good ole' boy club. It's time for some gender and/or race diversity in the Presidency. That diversity perhaps represents a change in perspective, and that's a good thing.

I'm not a big Hillary fan at all, but she's smart and has grit. I do like Bill, he's a great diplomat. He know how to effectively negotiate. I would make him Sec. of State. And I gotta admit having the Clinton's back in White House appeals to me for some vengeful reason. Is that enough for me to vote for Hillary? I'm not sure, Maybe.

Obama appears to be a good man. Seems to be sincere, honest, and might be the person who can unite this country. Maybe be a little green in politics, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

The Republicans offer the same old stuff. I don't want the Religion or Family values platform to be shoved down my throat. Enough of that phony baloney nonsense. Those are personal choices best left to individuals and not the government. McCain would probably make a good President but I would hesitate to put another pro "big business" politician in office, the middle class can't afford it.

Third Party Canidate? That Means Ron Paul at this point in time. I like his realistic take on the economics. If we continue on our current path, this country will implode. I concur with him on this. He might be this countries answer to fix our corrupted monetary policies . Can he do it? I don't know. Would I vote for him? Maybe, but his chances to win are slim to none.

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Don't get me wrong; I don't want to see another Republican victory any time soon. But a lot of people hate Hillary, and her chances of winning are less than Obama's.

I agree with your impressions of Obama, which is why he needs a seasoned running mate. Like Biden.

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