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Old 02-17-2008, 10:48 PM
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Because Bush didn't include disabled Vets or retirees in his original bill.
That's why.
He's a legislator now!

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Old 02-17-2008, 11:10 PM
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He's a legislator now!
No, he's still the President. The Stimulus Plan was hashed out by the Prez and some congress critters. Disabled Vets were left out. You should have known that.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:24 PM
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I predict:

The usual BS.

If it works, congress did it, Bush had nothing to do with it.

If it flops, it's Bush's fault, congress had nothing to do with it.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:11 AM
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Thank God you are here to defend the poor abused president.

(not that the congress deserves much better).

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:45 AM
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Thank God you are here to defend the poor abused president.

(not that the congress deserves much better).

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Why not? You defend congress.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:29 AM
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Not at all.

But the president has a whole lot of power.

As to the first question, I don't know how much if any I will get but whatever it is will be used to reduce debt.

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Old 02-18-2008, 08:37 AM
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But the president has a whole lot of power.
From the standpoint that he can veto the bill, absolutely. In theory, he could send the bill back till it was without pork. However, in reality, it can't happen because of the political fallout. Hence I call it a hostage situation. Can't hit the pork (the bad part) without hitting the good part (hostage).

IMO, I blame both groups. The congress for introducing the hostage situation and the president for signing it in. What I see is that people like to blame the president and give congress a free ride. How many times have you seen a bad bill and the first person they talk about is the president?
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"Blame"? Maybe. I think it's usually a good thing that they tear at each other's throats and usually a bad thing when they come together in harmony -- like this G-D'd "stimulus" package.

Want stimulus? Cut business taxes.

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Old 02-18-2008, 09:21 AM
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Gridlock was the founder's intention.

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Old 02-18-2008, 09:24 AM
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seriously.. some hot chick in an ultra mini skirt walked into the library.. hotness... no thong man
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:18 AM
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seriously.. some hot chick in an ultra mini skirt walked into the library.. hotness... no thong man
And you didn't take pics? WTF good are you?
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:56 PM
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Thank God you are here to defend the poor abused president.

(not that the congress deserves much better).

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Check this thread in 2 years. You will see that I was right.
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I hope so

I made $5600 and paid taxes....I'm 16 so do you think I will get a rebate? I'll spend it here at the buy parts section.
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