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Old 03-27-2008, 05:28 PM
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How about another option? Fine the hell out of those who knowingly hire them? Sprinkle in some jail time too
Agreed.

To be effective, however, that would have to include the families that hire Guatemalan nannies and the homeowners that hire Pedro the gardener. And, it would take a strong commitment from Americans willing to pay $25.00 for a car wash when wages go up!
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No rumor was he called someone a pendehjo or maybe it was a culo whecko and got put in the time out corner.
You better watch your mouth, young lady, or the next thing we know YOU'LL be in time out!
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34-26-36?
What cup size? C? DD? F? G? Would they be firm or sagging?
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:36 PM
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To be effective, however, that would have to include the families that hire Guatemalan nannies and the homeowners that hire Pedro the gardener.

And, it would take a strong commitment from Americans willing to pay $25.00 for a car wash when wages go up!
Absolutely.

I can decide if I want to pay you $25 to wash my car or DIY. What choice do I have about that 9 billion dollar figure you mentioned?
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I don't know if the US Census data for the State of Khalifornia would be considered more reputable than the estimations or assumptions of a anti-immigration lobby group.

Foreign borns make up about 35 percent of California’s adult population but represent only about 17 percent of the state's prison population.

U.S. born adult men are incarcerated in California state prisons at rates up to 3.3 times higher than foreign-born adult males.

Among men ages 18-40 – the age group most likely to commit crime – those born in the United States are 10 times more likely than immigrants to be in county jail or state prison.

Noncitizen men from Mexico ages 18-40 – a group disproportionately likely to have entered the United States illegally – are more than 8 times less likely than U.S.-born men in the same age group to be in a correctional setting (0.48% vs. 4.2%).

California cities with a higher share of recent immigrants have lower property and violent crime rates than in those with fewer immigrants.


2007 Study by Center for the Continuing Study of the California Economy

The CCSCE study determined that of the estimated 3 million illegal immigrants in California, about 1.8 million are employed, a rate of employment substantially larger than the population as a whole, incidentally. It points out that only about 800,000 Californians are listed as unemployed, "so even if every unemployed worker were ready and willing to fill a job left by an unauthorized immigrant … there would be a large shortfall in California." Eliminating illegal immigrant workers, in short, would be a serious blow to the California economy, leaving at least a million jobs vacant.
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Old 03-27-2008, 05:49 PM
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Among men ages 18-40 – the age group most likely to commit crime – those born in the United States are 10 times more likely than immigrants to be in county jail or state prison.

Noncitizen men from Mexico ages 18-40 – a group disproportionately likely to have entered the United States illegally – are more than 8 times less likely than U.S.-born men in the same age group to be in a correctional setting (0.48% vs. 4.2%).

California cities with a higher share of recent immigrants have lower property and violent crime rates than in those with fewer immigrants. [/i]

2007 Study by Center for the Continuing Study of the California Economy

The CCSCE study determined that of the estimated 3 million illegal immigrants in California, about 1.8 million are employed, a rate of employment substantially larger than the population as a whole, incidentally. It points out that only about 800,000 Californians are listed as unemployed, "so even if every unemployed worker were ready and willing to fill a job left by an unauthorized immigrant … there would be a large shortfall in California." Eliminating illegal immigrant workers, in short, would be a serious blow to the California economy, leaving at least a million jobs vacant.
Are they considering illegals "immigrants"?

Are they considering deportation as a "correctional setting"?

So now illegals are considered "immigrants"

What about white collar crime? They keep police employed. They give the newspapers and media something to write about so it keeps people employed. Insurance companies pay out so the shop doesn't lose too much. What they lose they write off. With the write off, the govt earns a little less which isn't an issue since it has more than made up with all the extra employment. The perp goes and spends money and stimulates the economy. Maybe we should have white collar crime since it doesn't hurt anyone really, right? So there are a million vacant jobs. Nobody can move to the Replblik of Kalifornia to fill those jobs, right?

Gives credibility to the statement that goes: Calling an illegal an immigrant is like calling a drug dealer an unlicenced pharmacist.
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Where facts disengage from opinions . . . the result is usually pretty ugly.
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Old 03-27-2008, 06:13 PM
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Where facts disengage from opinions . . . the result is usually pretty ugly.
How about this fact. They are criminals.
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Absolutely.
... What choice do I have about that 9 billion dollar figure you mentioned?
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How about this fact. They are criminals.
Just as every underage drinker; pot smoker; file sharing copyright violater; speeder; jaywalker; commiting perjury to get out of jury duty, social gambling, ticket scalping . . . but are they also threats to national security or a class of humans to be treated differently than others?
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Don't move to California

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