Flawed analysis of Rush Limbaugh
 

I turned to his show while driving today -- utter nonsense coming out the speakers. He was going on about how the whacky belief by liberals in some climate fantasy was responsible for high gas prices -- going for ethanol is what has driven up the price.

Liberals. They done it.

Don't be fooled by any notions that China and India have amped up Global demand or that his hero DUBYA-dingle has managed to throw the middle east into upheaval. It's liberals, I tell you, LIBERALS!! :mad:

And, speaking of flawed logic, I can't remember a time when the middle east wasn't in upheaval, and I'm older than Shrub. :rolleyes:

you should listen more often.

Middle east is jumped up more now that usual.

I can only take so much Limbaugh. The man is a full time propagandist. His devotion to truth is non-existent.

Shrub is no guarantee for perfect memory.

Same thing as always. Right wing liberals in the clitch with left wing liberals and/or vice versa.

It's like a Hornet's nest. The more you poke around in it ...

I don't know who you are talking about, I'd say, maybe they should listen more often ... :D

:tongue:

Yet you feel threatened enough to come complaining to OD?

You may certainly laugh at Rush, after all he is an idiot--all conservatives are idiots. Isn't that standard liberal "logic"
Or,
Or you could listen and see if there might be just an element of truth in what he said.
Just a hint...
Probably not----I doubt if the many different blends required by each different metropolitan area has any effect on prices.
I also doubt that the mandates to use ethanol have any effect on either fuel or food prices.

Liberals never want to look at the results of their populist, flawed policies.

If you listened more often you might know that he is not a great fan of the President.

There is an interesting distinction between 'nuisance' and 'threat', yet both can be annoying.

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If you look at who is behind ethanol you will find large corporations
like ConAgra and and GM.

Ethanol is not a liberal idea !

Rush is extremely biased toward the right wing conservatives.
He is most defiantly wrong in trying to claim that all of the woes of
the country are the fault of liberals.

His perpetual attempts to polarize people into two groups
liberal and conservative
is a very base and ugly thing.

How different is he from a racist, or sexist ?

The things he says are disgusting on a human level.

He is not talking politics, he is talking hate.

He is not a wise political sage.
He is a disgusting hate monger pandering to the rest of the hate mongers
of this world so he can make a buck.

He is making lots and lots of money off of the backs of people who are
not smart enough to realize they are being pandered to.

If you think his fat, drug addicted ass gives a siht about you or the
conservative party, you are a fool.

He has repeatedly shown that he has no compassion for anyone.

:jester:

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If you look at who is behind ethanol you will find large corporations
like ConAgra and and GM.

Ethanol is not a liberal idea !

Rush is extremely biased toward the right wing conservatives.
He is most defiantly wrong in trying to claim that all of the woes of
the country are the fault of liberals.

His perpetual attempts to polarize people into two groups
liberal and conservative
is a very base and ugly thing.

How different is he from a racist, or sexist ?

The things he says are disgusting on a human level.

He is not talking politics, he is talking hate.

He is not a wise political sage.
He is a disgusting hate monger pandering to the rest of the hate mongers
of this world so he can make a buck.

He is making lots and lots of money off of the backs of people who are
not smart enough to realize they are being pandered to.

If you think his fat, drug addicted ass gives a siht about you or the
conservative party, you are a fool.

He has repeatedly shown that he has no compassion for anyone.

:jester:

Say it again, Rich C.

A true conservative would not destroy the US economy by creating and flushing a trillion dollars down the toilet in unnecessary war.

All the while your own country's infrastructure is crumbling.

But your friends are getting rich.

You do have to listen longer than five minutes to formulate a valued opinion of any talk show host. As a Republican, I used to listen to Air America on XM just because I was interested in the "liberal" train of thought; in five minutes, I would have thought they were nuts, after a period of a week or so, I learned that the liberals have logic to their madness - just like Rush.

The words "flawed" and "Flush Limbaugh" in the same sentence are a given. That guy is a waste of molecules.

Now you know how I feel about self-congratulatory goof troops like Al Franken. There are very few talk radio voices worth hearing (on either side of the spectrum).

The only ones who still think that W is a Conservative are Democrats. He fiscally abandoned the Conservatives a long time ago.

You've got to give him credit for one thing. He's united all of us against him.

I think you mean "are a given." ;)

Thanks, damn photographic brain.

You got creativity and artistic vision, I've got useless crap.:)

Crap isn't useless. Don't be so hard on yourself . . .

What's scary to me is that there is a bunch of these guys, and they have an audience. I heard this Savage guy the other day and the haters that called in were so wound up that it was eye opening to just how many disturbed wackos there must be out there.
What's the demographic or IQ's of people that buy into this infantile crap?
They walk among us.:eek:

Just get him a prescription refill. He'll be fine..... :)

I used to listen to the ill-fated Err America before it crashed to see what the other side had to say. Let's just say that there are disturbed whackos of low IQ on either far side of the aisle. The only difference is that one side is able to make money doing it.

That appears to be the case. Why is that? How is it that people like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Hannity make millions of dollars when their commentary is of such poor quality? Limbaugh is illogical and dishonest. O'Reilly is a buffoon. Hannity is dishonest and mean-spirited, although he does have an impressive natural ability to advocate for his position. I disagree with 99.99% of what he says, but I would hate to be on camera trying to debate him.

Back to the point, though, what does it say about our country that such mediocre talent is rewarded so generously? Does quality mean nothing?

People flock to them because they tell them what they want to hear.

I've never caught any of that, but I'm sure you're right. The polarization we seem to have is just to much.
That site Political Compass
has a slick concept, but I sense that the test is geared to give a more liberal result.
We're in a real mess in the country, and if we don't get it togeather quickly we're going to loose the ballgame.

Maybe its all in your POV.
No one holds a gun to anyone's head to make them listen to Rush. No one force radio stations to carry his program. Yet, he is, by far, the most listened too, and therefore most sucessful at his profession.
All of which puts you in the minority.

I do find it rather interesting how much hate the ( oh-so-accepting_ left can hurl at Rush-or at any Conservative who can effectively communicate. The party of "we have to accept everybody, and be tolerant of their views and their differences" shows no ability to do that with regard to Rush. In fact there are attempts to use the power of the government to shut him down---by the supposed supporterd of fee speech.
What it shows me is the hypocrisy of the left--You have freedom of speech as long as you speak leftist propaganda. If you speak righist propaganda, you must be shut up, or libeled, or thrown in jail, or somehow discredited.

Instead of the ad hominum, challenge what he says.

You got me there, I don't know. I've tried wholeheartedly to distance myself from the political scene with relative success. I know the stereotypical talk radio "hate" talk is often mentioned, but there is (was) a lot of positive, pro-self sufficiency and independence talk that I think resonates with a lot of people.

On the other side of it (and I can only generalize because I didn't have nearly the listening investment and as a result resort to the very stereotypical examples often applied to the left :P) was a lot of negative and anti-X talk. CT, as well as most of the northeast, is a liberal bastion. Democrats outnumber Republicans 2:1 yet Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage bring in the ratings and money while those on the left aren't able to and go by the wayside.

Uh, speaking of mediocre talent, ever listen to pop radio or watch prime time TeeVee? This is nothing new.

It's easy to see when you're feelings are diametrically opposed to those being put forth.

My viewpoint hasn't really changed but I just grew tired of the whole politicial process and career politicians who aren't interested in what's best for the state/country or fixing actual problems, their interest lies in what gets them re-elected. I often wished I could live in blissful ignorance as many of my warehouse employees did so eventually I gave it up cold-turkey. It was the best thing I ever did for my own mental health.

Damm right! Snoop Dog, Brittany Spears etc. Gutter filth made muliti millionairs by a people with no standards.

- Peter.

Nowhere is this more obvious than on college campuses. There never has been a more nauseatingly self righteous bunch of thought Nazi's than you'll find there. This is not limited to the US academic scene though. It's global.

- Peter.

I'm not necesasairly a rush Limbaugh fan myself, but I give the man credit where credit is due and when it comes to the LOONEY LIBERALS, the man has a point! Liberals take no responsibility for the ***** they spew or the damage they do. :D

Interesting that you would still equate your self with these losers while at the same time in another post, you threatend to kill some one who disagreed with you and told them never to come near you ever and yet you say libocrites job is to spread peace and love! Yeah, your spreading it thick all right but peace and love ain't it!:rolleyes:

Oh, and Rush is not a Bush Supporter any more than I am. I still stay politically involved because I hope and pray that we can find a leader to clean up the mess of stupid spoiled brat baby diaper drooling bull***** left to us by LIBOCRITES! God help us save this Republic! :eek:

Unfortunately this is too true! Who would have thought the liberal movement started in the 1960's would be so capable of this kind of damage and hate even though these full of ***** clowns preach just the opposite!:rolleyes:

^^^People buy new Chryslers every day.

Originally Posted by dculkin
"Back to the point, though, what does it say about our country that such mediocre talent is rewarded so generously? Does quality mean nothing?"

Not any more I'm afraid! We don't let our kids fall down anymore. :( We insist on giving them an 18th place medal when they didn't win the race and this is continuing to encourage mediocre thought and behavior. :o This was the backdrop of the liberal 1960's! We might damage their self esteem if we don't keep propping them up and now we have a whole generation of me first slackers who want money, but are not willing to earn it any longer! :confused:

This is the part I hate about the liberal movement most. It discourages you from achieving. It discourages you from doing your best and trying harder and masks the failures with this Koom By Yah peace and love bull***** that doesn't mean a thing because if you really love someone, including your children, you wont keep bailing them out and setting them up for a life of welfare state entitlementism way of thinking. You encourage them to stand on their own two feet and to think for themselves! Not become a co-dependent and burden on those around them! It's like a drug you cant help but be addicted to.

Yet somehow the left see's this as a failure and yes sometimes we do fail, but the failures are a learning curve that is supposed to be used to achieve greatness and durability and reliability in ourselves! Yet liberals, everyone I have met all find a default with this and I'm not sure why. I think it's because there is no longer a point of reference that you can use to see where you have been to tell you where you should go now.

This has led to a whole generation of people who know they need something, but they don't know what! And this is a factory default, if you will, in the concept of liberalism that I don't see in Conservatives! Almost every Conservative I've met is self sufficient, self reliant, hardworking, self taught or went out of their way to seek what they needed to know, durable and most of all, resillient as hell! :D

What ever happened to this standard of achievement and self reliance should be a crime. And don't get me wrong, I honestly believe we need a safety net for those who would be lost without it, but the net should be enough to get you back on your feet, not become a way of life expecting one entitlement after another.;)

Would you belioeve that the majority of frivilous lawsuits where people see dollar signs are brought into court by liberals? I found that one hard to stomach myself, but when I read this from a judge who wrote about his life on the bench and how many cases he had seen where big dollar amounts demanded for punitive damages were overwhelmingly brought into court by liberals, I wasn't suprised! :rolleyes:

It's because liberals are diverse, and conservatives are not. There hasn't been more than two kinds of Republicans in 60 years. There are more kinds of liberals than you can shake a stick at. One can't pander to a diverse group, one would spend too much time talking about a slew of topics - only a small portion of which any one listener would care about.

Liberals are generally smart enough not to blame their counterparts for everything. Liberals spread blame among many. That makes for a more difficult show, and one would tend to sound like a ranting lunatic.

I would only hate to debate any of those guys if it was on their own show. Let me pick the cameraman, producer, and editor and I'd take any one of them on.

Everything bad is caused by liberals = crazy talk.
Most liberals live in the city, make more money, pay
more taxes, have lower unemployment and higher education.

Rush's program is entertainment not educational. Don't take
him too seriously.

You MUST be kidding, right?!
Diversity among liberals? Only as allowed within the party.
"When was the last time a Right to Life democrat ever addressed the national convention?
How many liberals oppose abortion on demand?
The diversity of the liberals is severely constrained.

Liberals are smart"--yet another way to state the old liberal ploy that conservative are dumb.
Just because you disagree with the principles of conservativism, does not automatically make them, or their adherents, dumb.

Your point being?Who said anything about hate? I commented on the quality of Limbaugh's work.:confused: So, you think the right has a hard time getting on the air? When it comes to commentary, TV and radio are dominated by the right.I have two responses to that last part.

First, ad hominem is a logical fallacy which attempts to refute another person's argument by attacking the individual instead of the person. I didn't do that. I commented on the general quality of Limbaugh's work.

Second, I can't think of a bigger waste of time than to "challenge" what Limbaugh says.

There is no Liberal Party.

I don't know.
Many.
There is far more diversity among liberals than conservatives. It is in the nature of liberalism for that to be so, as liberalism is more inclusive.

I don't disagree with all of the principles of conservatism. Nor did I say that conservatives are dumb. I said liberals are smart enough not make make everything they don't like the fault of conservatives. Liberals in general are less likely to hold their beliefs as strongly as conservatives, which is a sign of intelligence. Or perhaps wisdom.

I am a liberal. Not a doormat.

I do not have to put up with bull****.

I can speak out against anyting I want.
And so can you, or anyone else.
That is called freedom of speach.

Just like Rush can spew his trash, so can I.

I do not hate people, but I can hate there words and actions.
Most conservatives dont seem to understand that.
But, if you need someone to blame for your problems,
go ahead blame a liberal.

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Blaming other people for problems does not work.
Realizing you are the problem and changing what you do does.

Contempt prior to investigation keeps you ignorant.

There are nuts on both sides of the fence at the peanut farm.

And there is a negative correlation between intelligence
and any sort of fervor, ie.. political, religious, social....

That means stupid people hate stupid people....
I need to make a bumper sticker that says that.

RichC
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I used to listen to Rush, quite a bit a few years back...

At the time, I was "feeling" down and I needed to hear, someone, ANYONE, that could console my soul without drugs (How ironic.), "shrinks" (I'm that tall, not that edumacated! :D) or the usual amount of dispensation of my wealth to someone who was waiting for me to figure what my problem might be...

I found solace in Rush's words and works...

He was nailing the problem(s) "on the head" AND he was using humor to do it...

Yet, at the time, no one else was on the air doing the same thing...

Now, why should I expect CMAC2012, dculkins, RichC, Spamman450, tankdriver, 732002, or anyone else to like what Rush says or does? I don't expect that in the least...I'm interested in what makes me feel good...

Now, Al Franken decided he could write books and go on other "yak shows" to counter what he perceived as attacks on his "Holy Grail" of worship...leftist thinking and logic...

And the titles of BOTH books he ended up writing used his life's philosophy to its fullest...by personally attacking the subject and not the substance...he made some money, but not enough...once the substance was revealed within those pages, sales dwindled...

On to his next project...get some REALLY LIBERAL MONEY to back up Al's next plan - "AIR AMERICA" - Suck in the patriots with the word "AMERICA" in the title (Rush's show is using just HIS name - how "bloated" of an ego does that take? And it's so un-AMERICAN!) and spend HOURS tearing down the personalities of Conservatives and non-like thinkers and doers...

And, how well is that show doing today?

It ain't...

"AIR AMERICA" is now a piece of broadcast history and distant memories, almost like "Amos & Andy" - only more PC because a liberal thought it up.

But, Rush continues on...

Why?

Rush keeps his program going by staying fresh and attacking POLICIES THAT ARE FLAWED - WHETHER THEY BE LIBERAL, DEMOCRATIC, GREEN, REPUBLICAN OR TUTTY-FRUTTY...IT DOESN'T MATTER...IF IT STINKS AND THE PRESS AIN'T REPORTING IT...RUSH WILL DRAG IT OUT FROM UNDER THE ROCK WHERE IT GROWS AND HIT IT WITH THE LIGHT THAT THE DAMN THING FEARS...

And, if all that Rush is pulling out from under the rocks happens to be either Liberal, Democratic, Green or Tutty-Frutty, then THOSE FOLKS are going to feel threatened and offended. And occasionally, a Republican, or three, will get Rush's well-deserved "verbal boot" up their @55es as well.

In the meantime, "Where's Al?"

In Minnesota, where if Paul Wellstone could have done as well as he did, maybe he has a snow-ball's chance (God knows it's cold enough up this way!) to make it into Congress, where he can put on his "Don Quiote" (sp?) hat and cape and get Rush off the air and save AMERICA once again from the bane of DemoLibeReenTuFus around the nation. Harry Reid gave it his best and tried, but Al just knows that he will be able to do it better and this time, succeed!

NOT!

Now, Rush's analysis of any situation does have limits and he's smart enough to know when to quit, but he puts it out there, every broadcast day, for everyone to hear and analyze themselves.

He's not dictating policy from the microphone, he's lambasting it.

He's not passing laws that are short-sighted and ill-funded...he's pointing out the idiocy that passes those laws.

And...he's not above poking fun at himself, either.

But, I suppose that item is lost on the lost, because of themselves.



If you can't laugh at yourself, should you be laughing at others?



Just a "short" thought from a 65" tall (short) kinda' guy (At least the last time I looked! :eek: :D)...

You seem to have an idealised version of the democrat party that does not conform to reality.
Someone with a better memory than me will help out, but the dems refused to allow someone ( governor of PA?) to speak at their (2004?) convention. He is a right-to lifer, and was set top speak, but was removed from the program.

There is no diversity of substance inside the democrat party.

Rush wins again.

Anytime he can create a buzz, especially negative press from the left, he gets the publicity on which he depends. You are part of his cadre of loyal supporters. He should reward you with a subscription to "The Limbaugh Letter", in hope that you will continue to give him free advertising.

B

"I am a liberal. Not a doormat."
But like every liberal I ever met, you expect to treat others like one and not have it stick to you.:rolleyes:

"I do not have to put up with bull****."
Neither do we. Why does that give a Liberal the moral high ground?:rolleyes:

"I can speak out against anyting I want.
And so can you, or anyone else.
That is called freedom of speach."
I'll give you credit there. If you mean it, you will be ONE liberal who believes in freedom of speech. Most will say the same thing, but want to shut everyone else up if their not being polititcally correct. :rolleyes:

"Just like Rush can spew his trash, so can I."
There is a big difference between truth and trash you will never get.:D

"I do not hate people, but I can hate there words and actions.
Most conservatives dont seem to understand that."
It sounds like you are trying to convince yourself, not me. But then again, liberals paint everything with the same broad brush.:rolleyes:


"But, if you need someone to blame for your problems,
go ahead blame a liberal."
Where blame is due, I will place it. When stupid liberal bull***** policies designed to steal from me and give it away to causes or people who want to spend their lives in the teat and put back nothing but trash talk, expect me to be vocal and resistant. When you can't defend yourselves and your actions, calling us haters and racists always works!:D