I suspect you haven’t heard it because the mass media did not report it, but I am not alone on the no man-made warming side of this issue. On May 20th, a list of the names of over thirty-one thousand scientists who refute global warming was released. Thirty-one thousand of which 9,000 are Ph.ds. Think about that. Thirty-one thousand. That dwarfs the supposed 2,500 scientists on the UN panel. In the past year, five hundred of scientists have issued public statements challenging global warming. A few more join the chorus every week. There are about 100 defectors from the UN IPCC. There was an International Conference of Climate Change Skeptics in New York in March of this year. One hundred of us gave presentations. Attendance was limited to six hundred people. Every seat was taken. There are a half dozen excellent internet sites that debunk global warming. And, thank goodness for KUSI and Michael McKinnon, its owner. He allows me to post my comments on global warming on the website KUSI.com. Following the publicity of my position form Fox News, Glen Beck on CNN, Rush Limbaugh and a host of other interviews, thousands of people come to the website and read my comments. I get hundreds of supportive emails from them. No I am not alone and the debate is not over.

In my remarks in New York I speculated that perhaps we should sue Al Gore for fraud because of his carbon credits trading scheme. That remark has caused a stir in the fringe media and on the internet. The concept is that if the media won’t give us a hearing and the other side will not debate us, perhaps we could use a Court of law to present our papers and our research and if the Judge is unbiased and understands science, we win. The media couldn’t ignore that. That idea has become the basis for legal research by notable attorneys and discussion among global warming debunkers, but it’s a long way from the Court room.

I am very serious about this issue. I think stamping out the global warming scam is vital to saving our wonderful way of life.

The battle against fossil fuels has controlled policy in this country for decades. It was the environmentalist’s prime force in blocking any drilling for oil in this country and the blocking the building of any new refineries, as well. So now the shortage they created has sent gasoline prices soaring. And, it has lead to the folly of ethanol, which is also partly behind the fuel price increases; that and our restricted oil policy. The ethanol folly is also creating a food crisis throughput the world – it is behind the food price rises for all the grains, for cereals, bread, everything that relies on corn or soy or wheat, including animals that are fed corn, most processed foods that use corn oil or soybean oil or corn syrup. Food shortages or high costs have led to food riots in some third world countries and made the cost of eating out or at home budget busting for many.

So now the global warming myth actually has lead to the chaos we are now enduring with energy and food prices. We pay for it every time we fill our gas tanks. Not only is it running up gasoline prices, it has changed government policy impacting our taxes, our utility bills and the entire focus of government funding. And, now the Congress is considering a cap and trade carbon credits policy. We the citizens will pay for that, too. It all ends up in our taxes and the price of goods and services.

So the Global warming frenzy is, indeed, threatening our civilization. Not because global warming is real; it is not. But because of the all the horrible side effects of the global warming scam.

I love this civilization. I want to do my part to protect it.

If Al Gore and his global warming scare dictates the future policy of our governments, the current economic downturn could indeed become a recession, drift into a depression and our modern civilization could fall into an abyss. And it would largely be a direct result of the global warming frenzy.




My mission, in what is left of a long and exciting lifetime, is to stamp out this Global Warming silliness and let all of us get on with enjoying our lives and loving our planet, Earth.

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Sounds a lot like "There's no doubt that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" (Cheney). I guess if you repeat a lie often enough it's supposed to become true.

What I'd like the global warming deniers to explain to me is why the stratosphere has been cooling and the troposphere has been warming. Also it's not true that it hasn't warmed since 1998. It cooled off a bit in subsequent years but 2005 was about as hot as 1998 and most of the hottest years on record were the last 10. Inconvenient truth I guess. No one is saying CO2 is the only factor but it certainly plays a role.

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Its only political figures that think global warming is actually real, thats because they can see significant financial gain from it.

Actual scientists know that man-caused AGW is false and the public is being mislead into thinking its an actual problem that can be stopped/reversed.

Here is a book I suggest EVERYONE read.

http://www.amazon.com/Just-How-Stupid-Are-We/dp/0465077714

Same could be said about Global Warming/Cooling/Remaining the same, etc, etc.

We had good reason to believe the earth was flat too. We also had reason to believe there was a god. After all, how do you explain all this wonderful stuff if not the work of a supreme being?

How big a role? 0.1%? 50%? 30%? We have to be able to define it before we can decide what can or needs to be done.

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That's total crap and you know it. Sure there are some scientists who don't buy it, but from what I've seen most think it's a real issue.

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That's quite different isn't it. Religion and belief in God doesn't require any evidence. It's not like there's no evidence supporting man-made global warming.

There will never be precise numbers just like smoking isn't guaranteed to give everyone lung cancer by a certain age. It really comes down to an educated guess.

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How imprecise a number do you expect? They do have a figure that says an average smoker decreases his lifespan by 3 mins for each cig he smokes. OTOH, it doesn't say 3 mins if you smoke Marlboro Lights and 2.8 if you smoke Camel Wide Lights or 5 mins if you smoke unfiltered cigarettes.

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Key word there. They can think and guess all they want, that doesn't make it real.

All circumstantial "evidence". A glacier chunk falling off and polar bears thinning are not proof that the world is getting hot. Glaciers lose HUGE chunks of ice every day and have done so for thousands of millions of years. Polar bears have survived for decades in warm-climate zoos across the country without a problem.

Actually recently I read that the average smoker cuts his or her life by about 10 years total. As to global warming there are some numbers too. Don't quote me on this but I've read something like up to 9F warmer by the end of this century if nothing changes and ice-free Arctic summers by as early as 2013.

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Care to address the issues I raised in post #32?

By the way, you seem pretty ignorant on what polar bears actually need to survive in the wild. Hint: ice.

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2013 is only a few years away. Why not wait and see if the dire predictions come true before we destroy western civilization on a "maybe"?

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Because the dire predictions coming true destroy western civilization?



The anti-global warming side is all over the place. Half the time the globe isn't warming, the other half of the time it is but it's completely natural.

Catchy name for the issue aside, does anyone believe that pollution is totally harmless?

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I suggest you smoke at least 3 packs a day and see what happens in the next 20 years.

BTW, have you seen what the ice is doing up there?

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From what I have seen and read, the global warming activists correlate the amount of CO2 produced to the temperature of the earth and say that CO2 is causing global warming.

Even if we ignore the fact that water vapor and methane are much more important retainers of solar heat than CO2, does the correlation prove cause?

There are many things that can be correlated with global warming. Compare graphs of global temperatures with the number of people getting tattoos, the length of basketball uniforms in the NBA, or the number of Prius owners. The same correlation as CO2 production. Is Alan Iverson causing global warming? Get a tatt, kill the planet?

The real problem is the retreat of so-called scientists from the scientific method. True scientists propose a hypothesis, construct a controlled experiment to test the hypothesis, then analyze the data and draw a conclusion. Most neo-scientists adopt a hypothesis, find data from uncontrolled sources to support their hypothesis, and find a paying publisher to publish their report.

An interesting correlation is the fact that most record cold temperatures occurred during wars (think Napoleon at Moscow, Hitler at Stalingrad, Battle of the Bulge) when industrial pollution was at its highest. There have been two "Years Without a Summer." 1816 and 1889 were both characterized by failed crops due to frost in July in much of North America and Europe. This was directly related to volcanic activity filling the atmosphere with soot.

Obviously, global warming has been caused by the lack of particulate pollution due to the efforts of environmentalist.

Save the Earth, de-tune your diesel, and pump out the soot.

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Because I frankly do not believe the MMGW hysteria. We have already passed the deadline that was originally proposed some years ago, that if we did not do something immediately, by the turn of the century it would be too late. In fact none of the dire predictions are coming true. Why the rush?
Now we see signs of a coming ice age.
5 years is not too long considering the vastness of the earth, and the complexity of the natural systems.

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