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Old 08-27-2008, 03:02 PM
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I believe that it is a fair comparison, as these are merely two venues. I can't get the same variety in any one brick-and-mortar store, but you can't get the same variety from any one Ebay seller either.

Why should the price be a part of the discussion?
But you are using one Ebay seller vs a store yet you say Ebay is a venue. What about comparing any BAM store (venue) vs Ebay (venue).

Why not? Price is an important factor too.

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Old 08-27-2008, 03:04 PM
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Nevertheless, there are always the buyers who can't read descriptions, and eBay/PayPal want me to treat them the same way WalMart would someone who bought a pair of jeans and changed their minds. That's unreasonable, in my estimation.
That I can agree with.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:36 PM
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But you are using one Ebay seller vs a store yet you say Ebay is a venue. What about comparing any BAM store (venue) vs Ebay (venue).
Simply because of the size. It seems fair to me and apparently does not seem fair to you. But as I very rarely shop on Ebay, this difference of opinion between us really will have no impact on anyone. Even myself.

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Why not? Price is an important factor too.
Yes, price is an important factor, but it is not the only factor. I do not always shop for the lowest price on everything that I buy. Often, I don't care if it is available slightly cheaper from an Ebay seller. I do buy things online quite often, though, just not from Ebay. I guess that I just do not like the format. It's too hard to find what I'm looking for. There's that pesky time factor, which is often more important to me than the final price.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:42 PM
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Simply because of the size. It seems fair to me and apparently does not seem fair to you. But as I very rarely shop on Ebay, this difference of opinion between us really will have no impact on anyone. Even myself.

Yes, price is an important factor, but it is not the only factor. I do not always shop for the lowest price on everything that I buy. Often, I don't care if it is available slightly cheaper from an Ebay seller. I do buy things online quite often, though, just not from Ebay. I guess that I just do not like the format. It's too hard to find what I'm looking for. There's that pesky time factor, which is often more important to me than the final price.
I'm only comparing any BAM store with the Ebay site. I can't compare one buyer with a BAM store since I don't know of too many BAM stores that sell one type of item. In fact, other than fuel and food, I usually prefer to shop online for my stuff.

You are right that it isn't the only factor. Yes, if it costs me a lot of aggravation, it had best be dirt cheap or if it saves me aggravation, I expect to pay a little more. I have been waiting for a Super Wal*Mart to come into town and finally it has. Why? Because I can park there in their underground garage and not have to deal with the elements or a blazing hot car and I can get most of my shopping in one stop. So the convenience factor comes into play too. Home improvement I usually go to Home Depot since they are more convenient than Menards because they have an indoors shop whereas many other shops make me go into the outdoor side, etc, etc.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:04 AM
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Here's a good one. I just sold an item to a buyer in the US Virgin Islands. He paid before I had a chance to send an invoice with shipping adjusted for the USVI and his PayPal address is not confirmed (so no seller protection). I clearly state in my auctions that I ship only to confirmed addresses when payments are made via PayPal, so I sent him a message after he paid that states that shipping will be higher, and that I must deny his payment since his address is not confirmed. The latter is thanks to PayPal; I have NO protection from him claiming the item was not received, and will automatically lose any claim that he files.

Here is his reply; I am sure I can count on a negative (my first as a seller EVER) if this transaction goes through:

"OMG!
Can you be any more negative & condensending?
I received a xxxx from ebay Via USPS PriorityE(10x3.5)for $11.351
UNCONFIRMED???
I`m PayPal VERIFIED and, can use the verified logo on my auctions!
I`ve been a PalPal user since 1999!Nine years!
In my Ebay profile, I`ve been a member since 2000, Ebay re-set my membership then(NO FAULT OF MINE), I`ve traded on Ebay since early 1997 that was when ebay was the worlds garage sale that welcomed the world!
Now it`s dominated by Power sellers/drop shippers & people like you who, want to make a killing on "handing fees"
Correct me if I`m wrong here...
I think you know what you can do with your old xxxx, if you treat the way you treat others,(one would hope you have a reason for being so negative, hopefully it`s not your nature)I`m sure it will fit easily!
No payment request,NOTHING, So I did what a buyer is supposed to do, obligated to do, PAY.
Bottom line, do you want to sell the xxx & ship @ cost or not?
redeem yourself in a positive way."

I think he received the auto-generated reply from PayPal that is sent out when a payment is denied due to an unconfirmed shipping address, as I have no other reasonable explanation for his "condescending and negative" comments. And I quoted him actual shipping according to USPS.com estimates plus $2 and change to help cover cost of packing materials. I'm not sure what his problem is, but this is the sort of crap sellers get to deal with all the time, and there is no mechanism by which to leave this guy negative feedback if he dings me (!).
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Old 08-29-2008, 07:59 AM
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another up and coming ebay/paypal rule that is going to cause a massive uproar ~~~ buyer not happy, return it to the seller and all they need is a delivery confirmation and paypal will issue a full refund ~~~ seller has no recourse...... period

holy crap will that open a big can of worms ~~~ buy a product and send anything back, keep the product and the cash
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holy crap will that open a big can of worms ~~~ buy a product and send anything back, keep the product and the cash
.........hmmm........wonder if I can do that with a W-140..........hmmm..........???
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:49 AM
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.........hmmm........wonder if I can do that with a W-140..........hmmm..........???

will be interesting to see the affect these new rules have on buying and selling vehicles ~~~ paypal only? ~~~ geez, nick the seller an extra 2.9% and then have the 3-4 day transfer/confirmation float from the buyer

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will be interesting to see the affect these new rules have on buying and selling vehicles ~~~ paypal only? ~~~ geez, nick the seller an extra 2.9% and then have the 3-4 day transfer/confirmation float from the buyer

holy cash cow batman
I don't think that vehicle purchases will be "PayPal only" under the announced policy changes - see this announcement.

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Please note that the new payments policy will not apply to the vehicles categories in Motors, capital equipment categories in Business & Industrial, Mature Audiences and Real Estate.
I only became aware of this today. It's an easy detail to miss, as they didn't put it directly in the main announcement.
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:31 PM
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I don't think that vehicle purchases will be "PayPal only" under the announced policy changes - see this announcement.



I only became aware of this today. It's an easy detail to miss, as they didn't put it directly in the main announcement.
in reading that announcement i see car parts are not exempt from the paypal only

thusly any car/motorcycle/boat/ airplane/etc parts will have to be sold by paypal only.......... just can't believe they're doing this
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:50 PM
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i doubt anybody on this board does more on ebay than i do and i'll start worrying when there is something to worry about.
frankly, i've been requiring paypal accounts on all my vehicle listings for a while; i found it easier than cancelling bids from 'bidders' who never intended to pay in the first place. new policies may cause some problems at first but it will most likely work out o.k.
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:03 PM
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come this fall when ebay will become an electronic payment only site, it will also give them records of anything you have bought or sold..... hummmm, perfect for big brother to monitor along with giving the state tax boys a paper trail for every user

cash has always been king in the used parts world, guess it will get the shoe clerks out of the game ~~~ really sitting on the fence with ebay due to the recent changes ~~~ still shaking my head on this, totally stupid.....but it is their sandbox

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