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Old 09-22-2008, 11:08 AM
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65mpg Ford

Not that anyone here would buy a Ford, and maybe that is an indication that Ford knows it's market, but it's too bad they won't be importing this one to the States. At 65mpg I think I'd be very tempted.

http://finance.yahoo.com/loans/article/105735/The-65-mpg-Ford-the-U.S.-Can't-Have

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Old 09-22-2008, 11:16 AM
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It's a bit expensive, even considering the fuel economy benefit. Can it pass American safety standards as currently configured? If not, count on a fuel economy-killing weight gain.

For the US, this would be a better idea in a Focus or Jetta-sized sedan, even if fuel economy was a little compromised. It would be more versatile.
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Old 09-22-2008, 11:21 AM
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The article doesn't mention anything about safety standards and I hear Europe has just as stringent standards as we do, so I doubt that's the issue. It's probably just what the story says; they don't think they would be able to sell enough to make it a profitable venture.
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Like the article says, it's quite possible Ford again will be left in the dust by its competitors. I think they're making a big mistake by not having a good economy car for sale in the US.
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Old 09-22-2008, 03:37 PM
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I would buy a 65MPG ford...


I know of many other college students that are with me on this too.
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I would buy one as well.

Several years ago the Benz dealer said they were going to sell the 4 door Smart car. I waited a few months, it never came, so I bought my 85 300TDT. Maybe in twenty years when the 300 wears out, I'll step into a dealership one more time
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I left a post at the sight in the news article on the new Ford, I do believe that we could all say price gouging! I don't care how good it is, if they can not come up with the ride or looks then this thing is never going to sell to the discerning buyer. If those requirements can be met then they would sell the heck out of them in the USA too. Why is it that the big three just never seem to get it???
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:58 PM
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Since they are going to make the gas Fiesta in Mexico, couldn't they ask VW nicely, if they might buy some of their diesels from the Jetta factory?
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:15 PM
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I left a post at the sight in the news article on the new Ford, I do believe that we could all say price gouging! I don't care how good it is, if they can not come up with the ride or looks then this thing is never going to sell to the discerning buyer. If those requirements can be met then they would sell the heck out of them in the USA too. Why is it that the big three just never seem to get it???
The reason they give for not bringing it here is price; they don't want to gouge the market, or at least they know they can't. The problem seems to be the weak dollar as far as the price goes. But they don't feel that at any reasonable price the US market will buy into diesel cars. Are you saying the European buyers are not discerning? How do you what the ride is like? As far looks, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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There was another thread on this. It didn't make sense in the cost difference between a gasser and the diesel. I think the gasser version would be about $12K-16K. So you would have free fuel for about five years. Thats not including The cost of diesel over the five years. I would think the gasser version would get at least 30-35 mpg highway.
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Since they are going to make the gas Fiesta in Mexico, couldn't they ask VW nicely, if they might buy some of their diesels from the Jetta factory?
VW will sell every turbodiesel Jetta they can make for the forseeable future. Unless some type of a quid pro quo could be structured, such as VW taking the Ford Taurus, slapping a new grille on it, and calling it the next Passat, I doubt that VW will sell any diesels to their competition.
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There was another thread on this. It didn't make sense in the cost difference between a gasser and the diesel. I think the gasser version would be about $12K-16K. So you would have free fuel for about five years. Thats not including The cost of diesel over the five years. I would think the gasser version would get at least 30-35 mpg highway.
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I think the main reason was that the diesel engine is made in Britain and the weak US dollar makes it unattractive to import it to the US.
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I think the main reason was that the diesel engine is made in Britain and the weak US dollar makes it unattractive to import it to the US.
So why cant they build the engine in the USA, or Mexico if they need cheap labor. Only theBits know ow to build diesel engines suddenly?

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I read somewhere that the cost to build the factory, even in Mexico, was prohibitive.
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I think the main reason was that the diesel engine is made in Britain and the weak US dollar makes it unattractive to import it to the US.
I think the fact that diesels are not as well received here is part of the picture. Remember the Merkur XR4Ti the imported from 85-89 and the Merkur Scorpio imported from 88-89? Maybe they are a little gun shy from that bite. Take into consideration that they have to import the car, provide parts and support, etc, etc and you realize it isn't just as simple as bringing it across the water. Once they do it, they are committed and have to bring parts and support for a certain number of years. Seeing as it is a diesel, it is harder to import because the smog nazis are allergic to diesel. If they import it and it doesn't sell well, they still have to support it even if they cut it off. With the high popularity of diesel here, it is a bigger gamble than the Merkurs which was gas.

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