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Old 10-04-2008, 04:05 PM
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I have no such conflict that you mention and your link to socialism is quite a stretch.
Just more fear mongering.

And there are quite a few countries that are socially oriented and enjoy many of the freedoms we do, if not more. Canada comes to my mind first, along with many European nations.

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Old 10-04-2008, 04:25 PM
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I'm one of the "haves" and I pay more in taxes than most people because of my above-average income. I think it's fair. I have no such conflict that you mention and your link to socialism is quite a stretch.

Interesting, as the tone of your posting seemed to be in agreement with the Obama plan. Congrads on your success, and on your evident compassion.

Do you really believe 90% of taxpayers will see a tax reduction under Obama?
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:52 PM
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Do you really believe 90% of taxpayers will see a tax reduction under Obama?
A better question would be:

Considering our current 12,000,000,000,000+ federal debt, both wars, social security, medicare, military budget, energy dependence, and crumbling infrastructure, do you think any of else will see a significant and lasting tax cut?

Fiscal and budget responsibility will sooner or later have to be implemented. If not, the country is doomed within the next 5 years. That a guarantee, not a prediction.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:29 PM
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Palin not only held her own, she excelled. I can't wait to hear the detractors try to find fault.


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Old 10-05-2008, 12:22 AM
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Palin not only held her own, she excelled. I can't wait to hear the detractors try to find fault.
Held her own?! One of the main purposes of a debate is to answer or at least respond to the issues or questions brought up by the moderator as it would be the best example of how a candidate would respond to topics or challenges that are not right on the tip of their mental tongue. If she became president, may God help us, she wouldn't get to pick and choose what crises she wants t repsond to or the order in which they appear.

Palin dodged questions about as often as she answered them and her arrogant declaration about not answering questions the way Ifill or Biden wanted her to was just a bit much.

I grew up in the Mormon church and I saw many women who remind me of Palin: aggressively cheerful, golly shucks cotton candy flavored personality, and an unsinkable arrogant belief that they were among the chosen . . . . just because.
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:25 AM
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A better question would be:

Considering our current 12,000,000,000,000+ federal debt, both wars, social security, medicare, military budget, energy dependence, and crumbling infrastructure, do you think any of else will see a significant and lasting tax cut?

Fiscal and budget responsibility will sooner or later have to be implemented. If not, the country is doomed within the next 5 years. That a guarantee, not a prediction.
Son, I don' care wha' nobody says, I want me a damn TAX CUTT and I want it now, go-awd-dammit.

And I don't want no cuttin' and runnin' in Iraq neither.
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Classy. About what I've come to expect from the left. You don't dissapoint.
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Classy. About what I've come to expect from the left. You don't dissapoint.
Looks like a traditional political cartoon to me. What about it prompted your sarcastic comment?

It is remarkable how much a good political cartoonist can fit into one frame. In Oliphant's cartoon, we have Palin clearing a low bar with great self-satisfaction and a phony-baloney Joe Sixpack cheering her on. I think it is well done.
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I'm one of the "haves" and I pay more in taxes than most people because of my above-average income. I think it's fair. I have no such conflict that you mention and your link to socialism is quite a stretch.
Exactly. I'm in the same boat, and agree those who earn more should pay more. The socialism quote is old and tired. Nothing like the old fear and ignorance scare tactics....

Palin is everything that has been wrong with American politics for a long time. An uncurious idealogue who has no grasp of anything outside her usual parameters. She came across as nothing more than a trained monologue, with no depth to her answers, and completely lacking the ability to expand on debate.

When will Republicans respect, and want intelligence in their leaders again?

Time for change.....
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:18 AM
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Looks like a traditional political cartoon to me. What about it prompted your sarcastic comment?

It is remarkable how much a good political cartoonist can fit into one frame. In Oliphant's cartoon, we have Palin clearing a low bar with great self-satisfaction and a phony-baloney Joe Sixpack cheering her on. I think it is well done.
Great 'toon. Teliing it exactly as it is....
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:37 AM
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When will Republicans respect, and want intelligence in their leaders again?
.........when the intelligence level of the general population increases to the point where the electorate won't go for airheads like GWB and SHP.

Good luck waiting for that day.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:05 AM
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Exactly. I'm in the same boat, and agree those who earn more should pay more. The socialism quote is old and tired. Nothing like the old fear and ignorance scare tactics....

Palin is everything that has been wrong with American politics for a long time. An uncurious idealogue who has no grasp of anything outside her usual parameters. She came across as nothing more than a trained monologue, with no depth to her answers, and completely lacking the ability to expand on debate.

When will Republicans respect, and want intelligence in their leaders again?

Time for change.....
There is nobody stopping you, nor anybody else from paying more in taxes than is required of you.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:32 AM
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There is nobody stopping you, nor anybody else from paying more in taxes than is required of you.
Why would an individual pay more taxes than are required? There would be so few willing to do, there would be no noticeable benefit to the country.

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