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PaulC · #16 11-04-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Idolotor

Whenever you hear that BS phrase "redistribution of wealth", that's total crap. All college educated people know that it means taking unfair advantage (stealing from) of the successful, educated, hard working folks that may have really struggled to get where they are. Higher tax rate for successful people is fair? No!

Just out of curiosity, which end of the wealth distribution chain will you be on?

MTI · #17 11-04-2008, 07:11 PM

I am constantly bemused by the "gloom" and "doom" economic soothsayers on the various forums. How little faith they seem to have in our nation's business owners and workers. They see a system so fragile, so brittle, that anything less than leaving it alone or providing more tax relief that the current administration has provided, will doom the nation to ruin.

Have the past 8 years left you better off?

DieselAddict · #18 11-04-2008, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cudaspaz

You think this post was stupid???

Wait till after the election results are in.

Oh man, the nah, nah fighting will only just start then.

Seriously, the post was only posted to put a little fun into the mix, but obviously there are some who like to microscopically analyze everything, outwit the next guy an an attempt to obtain cyber superiority over all.

Some of us just like to have a little fun in light of what is going on.

I didn't think it was funny at all. It was too reminiscent of the typical smearing garbage that the GOP likes to put out.

cudaspaz · #19 11-05-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

I am constantly bemused by the "gloom" and "doom" economic soothsayers on the various forums. How little faith they seem to have in our nation's business owners and workers. They see a system so fragile, so brittle, that anything less than leaving it alone or providing more tax relief that the current administration has provided, will doom the nation to ruin.

Have the past 8 years left you better off?

I am personally much better off.

Is it because conditions were favorable to me as a small business owner and my hard work and determination, honest business practices, and long hours working at it?

I think it's a little bit of all of that.

The thing that pisses me off and gives me great fear is not the fact that Obama is black, dude that's not even a deciding factor whatsoever.

The fact that this guy and his past associations, his personal marxists views, and not to mention the most important criteria of all...HIS VOTING RECORD and how his thinking affects me as an individual.

I don't like alot of what the guy did as a senator when it came to upholding our individual freedoms as he swore and oath to protect, and not just him, but the whole liberal party has immense disdain for individual liberties now days and this folks is what I have a big problem with.

I'm tired of being labeled a racists because I'm pissed off that Obama's pastor is a racist, and Obama's friends are murderous racists, or that I'm pissed off because he refused to put his hand on his heart during the national anthem while his buddy William Ayers is taking pictures of himself standing on the American flag.

And I'm called a radical for supporting bedrock principles of this great country, and for that I am called by Obama a redneck that clings to his guns and religion.

I guess that's what Obama thinks of the people who founded this country and broke free from being forced to pay taxes to the church and to the crown with no representation in the courts.

They were rednecks that clung to their guns and religion.

And guess what, it worked.

Did they make mistakes along the way?
Hell yeah, was the treatment of blacks terrible?
Hell yeah!

Am I happy that all men are created equal and this country has gotten to the point where a black man, or perceived black man,let's be fair, has been elected president of the greatest country in the world?

Hell yeah.

I just don't think he's an honest man whatsoever, and his past associations tell a much different tale to me than the one he is telling you along with the millions of dollars the media has spent making sure that any hard questions directed at him were quenched and the person asking the question was duly demonized and labeled racist, bitter, or just plain ignorant.

Truly the wrong guy, not the color of his skin, but the color of his past and the fact that the media made sure his secrets would not be revealed.

So, I guess all we can do is sit back and watch as the circus goes on with the help of George Soros' money.

Bye America, it was nice knowing you.

davidmash · #20 11-05-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cudaspaz

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Dear Fellow Business Owners,

As a the owner of a business who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama will be our next President, and that my taxes and government fees will go up in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Customer will have to see an increase in my prices to them of about 8%. I will also have to lay off 6 of my employees. This really bothered me for a while, as I believe we are family here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go.

So, this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found 8 Obama bumper stickers on my employees' cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way to approach this problem.

If you have a better idea, let me know. I am sending this letter to all business owners that I know.

Sincerely
Ward
JOOA Corp.

The way I see they had it coming to them as well. Hiring on with a owner who is to stupid to judge people based on their ability and job performance was an error on their part.

John Doe · #21 11-05-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

You want to vote for McCain.........fine..........he's a good man...........but, posting this total and complete meaningless trash up on here makes you look like a complete moron.

Some of us do know the platform of the Dems and it's quite obvious that most of the folks that want to vote for JSMc do not.

Wha???

Carleton Hughes · #22 11-05-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cudaspaz

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Dear Fellow Business Owners,

As a the owner of a business who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama will be our next President, and that my taxes and government fees will go up in a BIG way.

To compensate for these increases, I figure that the Customer will have to see an increase in my prices to them of about 8%. I will also have to lay off 6 of my employees. This really bothered me for a while, as I believe we are family here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go.

So, this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found 8 Obama bumper stickers on my employees' cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of a more fair way to approach this problem.

If you have a better idea, let me know. I am sending this letter to all business owners that I know.

Sincerely
Ward
JOOA Corp.

Spurious crap like this has been circulating on Craigslist for weeks now.Wouldn't surprise me if it was a cut'n paste job like so many other fake doom screeds.
That way the pastee does not have to think,just copy.

aklim · #23 11-05-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

And, what is forgotten, is the fact that the additional taxes gleaned from the wealthy will still be spent somewhere............the money doesn't evaporate into thin air. The government will enact a health plan or give money to people in need and they will spend that money..........one way or the other...........the economy will not suffer from a small increase in marginal tax rates on those with incomes over $250K (or $200K.......whatever).

What state do you live in and what happened to your tobacco settlement money? Did it get spent on tobacco prevention/cessation? How much of your road tax is spent on road projects? IIRC, the average is 60 cents on the dollar. Sorry, I think you are wrong. It will evaporate and be gone.

Brian Carlton · #24 11-05-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe

Wha???

Speaking to the OP, JD........not you.

Brian Carlton · #25 11-05-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

It will evaporate and be gone.

It cannot "evaporate". It must be spent somewhere..........a salary.......a hard good........a construction project...........somewhere, it is spent in the economy.

aklim · #26 11-05-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

It cannot "evaporate". It must be spent somewhere..........a salary.......a hard good........a construction project...........somewhere, it is spent in the economy.

Well then, if that is the case, all is well. It will be spent somewhere on something meaningful. We can trust that they will do that since they have done so well in the past. What can go wrong? Lets see, I can buy food for my family or beer. Wonder what would be better?

How about it put differently. It will be spent in the least effective way. IOW, we will piss our money away on projects that provide little and suck up a lot of resources?

Brian Carlton · #27 11-05-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

Well then, if that is the case, all is well. It will be spent somewhere on something meaningful.

The discussion of "meaningful" is a separate discussion.

I only state that it cannot "evaporate" and it must be spent somewhere in the economy. What is "meaningful" to you might be totally "unreasonable" to me. But, it's irrelevant. The bottom line is that the folks above $250K don't bring home quite as much and, therefore cannot spend quite as much.

But, for the economy, the result is a net zero change.

aklim · #28 11-05-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I only state that it cannot "evaporate" and it must be spent somewhere in the economy.

What is "meaningful" to you might be totally "unreasonable" to me. But, it's irrelevant.

The bottom line is that the folks above $250K don't bring home quite as much and, therefore cannot spend quite as much.

But, for the economy, the result is a net zero change.

I suppose if you put it that way.

What is meaningful to me is if they can show that we spend $200 and we bring in more than $200.

I'm curious, how so? Are you talking of the shelters or what?

Brian Carlton · #29 11-05-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

What is meaningful to me is if they can show that we spend $200 and we bring in more than $200.

I'm curious, how so? Are you talking of the shelters or what?

If that's the case, the deficit should be dropping.

Why not? If the rich spend the money in the economy...........or the government spends the money (or gives it away to be spent by others)..........what's the difference to the economy in total?

G-Benz · #30 11-05-2008, 03:54 PM

I find it ironic when I read other blogs and posts here about Obama's exhorbitant tax hike plans and the like, that no one seems to be pointing to the current multi-trillion dollar deficit...even if Obama does nothing, how does this country pay for that $700B bailout and the current bleed rate of the war effort?

And yeah, it will be interesting to see if every criticism levied against the future prez will be considered having racial overtones...unfortunately, there are plenty of posts here and in other forums that contained very idiotic remarks that cannot be construed as anything but racist...