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Old 11-27-2008, 09:45 AM
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Jealous lover who blinded woman with acid will be blinded with acid, Iranian court rules
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A jealous lover who blinded a woman with acid is also to be blinded with acid under the country's Islamic law.

A 27-year-old named only as Majid confessed to attacking Ameneh Bahrami in 2004 to dissuade anyone from marrying the woman he loved.

Wednesday's ruling was issued based on the Islamic law system of 'qisas,' or eye for an eye retribution.

The reports say Ameneh asked the court to sentence Majid, who was only identified by his first name, to be blinded by acid to prevent similar attacks on other women.

Majid is allowed to appeal the verdict.

Elsewhere, Iran hanged 10 people in a Tehran jail, all of them convicted of murder. The executions are the latest in a series that have drawn criticism from rights groups.

It said one of those executed at Tehran's Evin prison was a woman who killed her husband in 2001 and cut him into pieces.


Spectators watch as a convicted bomber is hanged in the Iranian city of Zahedan last year. Rights groups and European governments have criticised Iran for an increase in the number of hangings

'They were hanged after their sentences were upheld by the Supreme Court,' Fars News Agency said, quoting judiciary sources.

Murder, adultery, rape, armed robbery, apostasy and drug trafficking are all punishable by death under Iran's sharia law, practised since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

Rights groups and European governments have criticised Iran for an increase in the number of hangings since authorities launched a clampdown on 'immoral behaviour' in July 2007.

Iran dismisses accusations of abuses, insisting it is implementing Islamic law and accusing Western governments of carrying out rights abuses themselves.

Amnesty International said in April that Iran had executed at least 317 people last year, trailing only China, which carried out 470 death sentences.


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Old 11-27-2008, 10:37 AM
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I am not sure about this extent. But no punishment, or a few years at the federal "ritz" are not stoping anything.
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Old 11-27-2008, 10:21 PM
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I heard on the radio that some of the women who had acid thrown on them in Afghanistan are demanding that the perpetrators experience the same before serving their prison sentences.
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Old 11-27-2008, 11:52 PM
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I heard on the radio that some of the women who had acid thrown on them in Afghanistan are demanding that the perpetrators experience the same before serving their prison sentences.
sounds fair. no?
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:36 AM
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sounds fair. no?
No objections here.
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Old 11-28-2008, 08:49 AM
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This type of punishment would make people think twice before acting. Singapore is also a good example - you break the law and you get whipped. They don't have much of a crime problem there.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:10 AM
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It's horrible. I think eye-for-an-eye is a stupid way the punish offenders. Maining in the name of justice simply converts a convict into a permanent ward of the state. Unless we want to do like these other countries and institutionalize a beggar class.

I understand the visceral appeal, but come on, this is not the type of justice we need in a civilized society.

Lock them up and make the dig holes or break rocks -- that's fine with me. Or execute them. But maiming? Gimme a break.

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Eye for an eye and corporal punishment are the best methods of deterrence.

If you were planning to rob a store and, if caught, faced either several years of prison or death...which one would would you be willing to take the risk with?

Thinking of shoplifting? Would spending a few days in jail or getting your hand cut off make you think twice?

Look how many career criminals and prison inmates there are in the USA and how many there are in Iran. Barbaric, yes. Does it get results, very much yes.

Remember elementary school? All the teacher had to do was brandish that paddle and the troublemakers usually shut up pretty quick! (Yes, even I'm old enough to remember The Paddle.)

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Here in the pacific NW, the big crime is to steal peoples cataletic converters for meth money. The police do noting except tell you to file a report on line. No attempt at stopping these "small" crimes.
How long before someone under a car in the dark of night gets shot by the owner after replacing a few of these at 300+ a pop? Bet the will not leave him alone
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Here in the pacific NW, the big crime is to steal peoples cataletic converters for meth money. The police do noting except tell you to file a report on line. No attempt at stopping these "small" crimes.
How long before someone under a car in the dark of night gets shot by the owner after replacing a few of these at 300+ a pop? Bet the will not leave him alone
Who are the @holes buying the converters from the Methbutts? Bust their businesses and see if the converters keep disappearing...write a letter to the editor and copy the State's Attorney General on it...see if there's a response...inaction only continues the breeding of indifference...put some politicians nuts over the fire and see if they start paying attention...
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Who are the @holes buying the converters from the Methbutts?
They don't buy the converters whole. Thieves break them open and remove the precious metals and then sell them to metal dealers. It can be quite lucrative. It happens around here, too. SUVs are particularly good targets because it is easier to crawl under them and cut the converter off with a hacksaw.
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Capital punishment is not "capital deterrence". It is designed to punish the offender and makes sure that person commits no more crimes. Deterrence is secondary.
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Did 'eye-for-an-eye' justice deter these bastards from throwing acid in the eyes of girls?
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It's horrible. I think eye-for-an-eye is a stupid way the punish offenders. Maining in the name of justice simply converts a convict into a permanent ward of the state. Unless we want to do like these other countries and institutionalize a beggar class.

I understand the visceral appeal, but come on, this is not the type of justice we need in a civilized society.

Lock them up and make the dig holes or break rocks -- that's fine with me. Or execute them. But maiming? Gimme a break.
You raise some good points. Interesting that the 'eye for an eye' thingy was supposedly brought in by Moses to make punishment more fair, not more harsh, to do away with inequities like getting your hand cut off for stealing a loaf of bread.

In the Afgh. case, I would think some burning and scarring with acid would be sufficient -- blinding would be over the top but then I don't know how bad the women were injured in that case.

The impunity with which men punish women for various supposed morality violations in Islamic lands is so whack, one wonders what sort of punishment might be needed to bring about some changes.

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