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Hatterasguy · #16 01-12-2009, 06:40 PM

Nah the floor is nice and stiff. Its 3/4 OSB with tongue and groove on the ends. Its heavy but its stiff as hell, more so with those engineered wood beams.

Brian Carlton · #17 01-12-2009, 06:41 PM

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It has a 50 year warranty, not all OSB is created equal too. This stuff holds nails really well which is important since most of the flooring is oak these days.

Maybe it's come along over the years, but the stuff I've seen will distort horribly after a load is on it for awhile.

To use 5/8" for floors is just way below acceptable, IMHO.

Hatterasguy · #18 01-12-2009, 06:43 PM

No sorry its 3/4, I was doing to many things at once and typed 5/8.

He has been using this stuff for years, and its in many dozens of houses he has built. Never a complaint.

Brian Carlton · #19 01-12-2009, 06:43 PM

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Its 3/4 OSB........

Hey......look at that.......it's getting thicker as we speak.........

Brian Carlton · #20 01-12-2009, 06:46 PM

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He has been using this stuff for years, and its in many dozens of houses he has built. Never a complaint.

Like I said........check it out in 20 years and see how it sags between the joists.

You can't use the "complaint factor" as a measure of proper building techniques. That variable is only used for the first year to prevent a warranty claim........but, I'm sure your uncle is well aware of this.

Hatterasguy · #21 01-12-2009, 06:47 PM

I don't know, a lot of old houses were built far worse than the new ones. You should see one of his rentals, it looks like it has 1.5x3 roof joists.

1925 for ya, building code? Whats that?

The old house I'm trying to sell now had a plumber go through it that had a notching fetish...

Good modern OSB is better than plywood, just the cheap junk gave it a bad name.

Brian Carlton · #22 01-12-2009, 06:49 PM

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Good modern OSB is better than plywood

I'd be interested in seeing some supporting information on that claim..........not that it can't be possible..........I've just never seen it hold up over the long haul.

How long has "modern OSB" been available? Any of it been out for 20 years? I think not.

Hatterasguy · #23 01-12-2009, 06:50 PM

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Like I said........check it out in 20 years and see how it sags between the joists.

You can't use the "complaint factor" as a measure of proper building techniques. That variable is only used for the first year to prevent a warranty claim........but, I'm sure your uncle is well aware of this.

Well he keeps in touch with a lot of his past clients. He just sold another house to a couple, this past summer, they bought a house from him and my grandfather in 1986. That's actualy not that uncommen for him.

Brian Carlton · #24 01-12-2009, 06:51 PM

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Well he keeps in touch with a lot of his past clients. He just sold another house to a couple, this past summer, they bought a house from him and my grandfather in 1986. That's actualy not that uncommen for him.

............bet the '86 house used 100% plywood.........

Hatterasguy · #25 01-12-2009, 06:55 PM

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I'd be interested in seeing some supporting information on that claim..........not that it can't be possible..........I've just never seen it hold up over the long haul.

How long has "modern OSB" been available? Any of it been out for 20 years? I think not.

I would say the past 5 to 10 years, but I'm far from and OSB expert. The only place I'm seeing regular plywood now is in remodel's, because the home owners like to see it.

http://www.huberwood.com/main.aspx?pagename=advantechflooring
I think this is what he uses.

t walgamuth · #26 01-12-2009, 06:58 PM

I would pay extra for 3/4" t and g plywood for most applications. I used a 5/8 thick six ply plywood in my home where I installed full inch oak t and g and that has not been a problem. I would not use it in a clients home though.

Getting a good solid base is essential to a good ceramic tile floor job. If going over any type of osb I would probably go with 3/4" t t and g as an underlayment to the tile.

I would then avoid any adhesive that is water based too.

Good luck.

A264172 · #27 01-12-2009, 07:07 PM

I would do a separate foundation with pilings and shock absorption, but to each his own.

Aside from that you appear to be in good hands here.

SirNik84 · #28 01-12-2009, 07:47 PM

I did my first tile floor this summer. I'm no where near an expert. I can tell you, using the tile saw was a trick. I broke a few tiles, but once I got the hang of it, it was a lot of fun, and I never broke another tile.

As far as what I used for the job, I went to the Contractors Warehouse because they are cheap. I had my step dad coaching me. Hes a Contractor, and a Civil Engineer. He told me "read the instructions on all you products before you buy anything" we picked out the tile and then read the back. it told us what thin set to use. the thin set told us what trowel to use. We then read all the boxes of grout, picked one that matched the tile, and the grout told us what size spacers to use.

we fallowed all the instructions, except we made the thin-set with a little more water because we were laying it to a concrete slab and it was drying out to fast.

Some other advice my step dad gave me was buy all your tile at once. the bigger stores (home depot, lowes, and contractors warehouse) buy the tile in bulk, and there is batch number to the tile, different batches will have slightly different colors, so you might have to dig through the pallet at the store to make sure all your batch numbers match. or make sure to mix up your tiles as you lay them so you don't have one corner that is darker or lighter. you don't want it to be noticeable.

The other important thing i can think of is to lay out the tile before you star to lay it. its better to have a border of half tiles then have one side of the room have like 2 inch tiles... i was laying 13 inch floor tiles, it would have looked funky.

here are some pictures of my tile job.

I hope you enjoy your job. I can tell you since this was my first tile job I think it looks pretty good, and there is an awesome since of pride is saying "i made this"

Enjoy, and Good Luck!