Is it your argument that a potentially worse president justifies the apparently counter-productive bad decisions of the present one?

Using the "stock market" or DJI as an indicator of the health of the nation . . . how many times has that been proven completely wrong?

I dunno, do you?

No. My comment was intended primarily to be a cheap shot against a bunch of GOP hacks. In other words, just good, clean fun.

As for the "apparently counter-productive bad decisions" of Obama, I don't think any such thing is at all apparent, at least not yet. That the leaders of the GOP have no persuasive arguments contrary to Obama's policies in this area is evidence that there are no easy answers.

I think that Obama is putting in a good faith effort, the first time that has been tried in many years.

Different joke, same punch line.

I find all these right wingers on this thread the fundamental equivalent of a driver, who once he has driven down a blind alley, as he reaches the dead end, turns around and blames his passengers for the mess he is in. I think at this point you people are simply dead weight when it comes to finding any kind of solution to anything. The rest of us have gotten out to find our own way, my conservative friends, leaving you to wallow in your pit of irrationality, as you flay about for communists and such.

I get where you're coming from, but I have to admit that I was immediately struck by what I consider the irony of this post.

Isn't that exactly what conservatives have been asking folks to do?

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You mangle my metaphor.

Just sayin'...

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Well, my point is that the conservative movement has become a bit of a cult, always bending over backwards to attack critics, make up boogey men and conspiracies, like any cult covering for lack of success of their ideas. Given all the defense mechanisms firing and the flailing about looking for "communists" (where have I heard that before, O fellow Nixonian survivors), alas, for someone, anyone to be "for blame" for the mess their ideas have made of us, they may as well be a bunch of scientologists or Moonies. Wait a minute, the Moonies own the Washington Times.... in fact, many of them are in fact, Moonies. I now add a new category: Limbaughbians. They are characterized by the fact they have all undergone Limbaugh-tomies. Pass Botnst a tamborine, would you? So, if you must: critique metaphor #2: They are like cultists explaining why Jesus did not arrive and we were not all raptured on the wings of holy tax cuts, and the rest of the country is now like cult survivors being de-programmed, after having escaped the mad cult, where the remaining cultists, at the behest of Brother Love Limbaugh, are now in the process of burning down their compound whilst quoting the Seven Seals to the rest of us. Did that one work any better?

Absolutely. Doing things to make it worse is Job #1 with the Marxist Obama.

^ ahem, as evidenced.

I think all the people who are claiming Obama is a Socialist are hilarious. No really, I mean come on! You can't really belive that.

Once I looked into it more, Obama's stated beliefs and actions are Marxist, with a strong tilt toward Communism.

Not socialist at all.

Socialist is a pretty broad term, I doubt anyone cares much about it. Jefferson, the father of public education in the US, would fit their definition of a socialist, in fact if there were no public education in the US today, the same crowd here crying socialist would be pilloriing Jefferson himself as Stalin's own son if Jefferson introduced the idea today. Even Lincoln and his institution of an income tax, Skid Roe Joe would indeed be3 pointing out that that is actually an item in the Communist Manifesto, the Great Emancipator would be being crucified as Lenin incarnate by Mr. Skid.

Myself, I think Obama is doing the best he can with the pile of festering rot left to him by eight years of Republican neglect of what should have been our national agenda - energy independence, new manufacturing base, etc, which were superceeded by the insanity of the Iraq War and the wanton squandering of the underpinnings of the American economy. They seem to forget how much they bleated on about the wonderful "ownership economy" they were creating, something they no longer mention now that the owners are all being foreclosed. In the end, Neo-conservative Republicanism is a failure. It has about as much to show for the years of it's rule as Soviet Communism did, and is ending up in the same place: the ash bin of history.