The Gun Thread

[jdc1244]

I think this is why the assault weapon gun ban needs to be brought back.

Assault weapons are already banned – that makes no sense.

All we can do is limit the sale and (hopefully) the production of the particularly nasty ones.

What constitutes a firearm ‘nasty’?

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by jdc1244

Assault weapons are already banned – that makes no sense.



What constitutes a firearm ‘nasty’?

It wears a pink leotard and doesn't shave it's butt.

[tankdriver]

Originally Posted by jdc1244

What constitutes a firearm ‘nasty’?

My guess is he's talking about things like machine pistols, and the more militarisitic as opposed to sport weapons. I could be wrong though.

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by tankdriver

My guess is he's talking about things like machine pistols, and the more militarisitic as opposed to sport weapons. I could be wrong though.

You're right.

jdc1244 - Federal Assault Weapon Ban expired in 2004

Maybe you live in NY CT CA NJ or MA?

[unkl300d]

'legalize law enforcement, throw legislators in jail'.

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel

You're right.

jdc1244 - Federal Assault Weapon Ban expired in 2004

Maybe you live in NY CT CA NJ or MA?

I think state legislatures and municipalities are right to deal with gun issues at their level. Nationally, a one-size-fits-all policy is going to be strongly resisted by some states while strongly embraced by others. The whole rationale for a federal government is to allow for differences among the constituent states.

[DieselAddict]

Originally Posted by Botnst

I think state legislatures and municipalities are right to deal with gun issues at their level. Nationally, a one-size-fits-all policy is going to be strongly resisted by some states while strongly embraced by others. The whole rationale for a federal government is to allow for differences among the constituent states.

That makes it harder to limit access to assault rifles when most states allow them. Sometimes a one-size-fits-all policy is what we need.

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by DieselAddict

That makes it harder to limit access to assault rifles when most states allow them. Sometimes a one-size-fits-all policy is what we need.

Whatever an assault rifle is, arrest people in your state for having them. Stay the fork out of my state, my life.

[DieselAddict]

Originally Posted by Botnst

Whatever an assault rifle is, arrest people in your state for having them. Stay the fork out of my state, my life.

Make your own country then and control your border. Otherwise it's really hard to keep these things out of the states that don't want them.

[Skippy]

So, what's your definition of assault rifle?

[DieselAddict]

Originally Posted by Skippy

So, what's your definition of assault rifle?

My definition is irrelevant. I'll go with whatever the previous ban used as a definition.

[GregoryV022]

Originally Posted by Skippy

So, what's your definition of assault rifle?

any rifle used by the military could be considered an assault weapon, but it is a vague category.

i have nothing against assault rifles. i think that they are awesome.

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by Skippy

So, what's your definition of assault rifle?

Federal government's definition -
Rifles:
Any semiautomatic rifle made after 9/13/94, which can accept a detachable magazine and which has two or more of the following characteristics is a banned AW:

• Folding or telescoping stock,
• Pistol grip which protrudes conspicuously below the action of the gun,
• Bayonet mount,
• Flash suppressor or a threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor,sh suppressor,
• Grenade launcher.

I have seen AR-15 clones advertised which, although they aren't fitted with a flash hider, do have a muzzlebreak on the end of the barrel. If this is threaded on the gun would appear to posses the threaded-barrel feature, even if there's no flash suppressor on the gun. For this to be legal, the muzzlebrake must be permanently attached, e.g., with silver solder. Be careful!
Pistols:
Any semiautomatic pistol made after 9/13/94 which can accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics is a banned AW:

• The magazine attaches to the gun outside of a magazine well inside the pistol grip,
• Threaded muzzle which can accept a flash suppressor, barrel extension, etc.,
• As manufactured, a weight of 50 ounces or more unloaded,
• Barrel shroud/heat shield which allows the shooter to grasp the weapon with the offhand when shooting without getting burned,
• A semiautomatic version of a fully automatic weapon.

Shotguns:
Any semiautomatic shotgun manufactured after 9/13/94 that has at least two of the following features is a banned AW:

• Folding or telescoping stock,lescoping stock,
• Pistol grip which protrudes conspicuously below the action of the gun,
• Fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds,
• The ability to accept a detachable magazine.

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by DieselAddict

Make your own country then and control your border. Otherwise it's really hard to keep these things out of the states that don't want them.

You go make your own country. Mine is much better without your interference.

[toomany MBZ]

Originally Posted by pj67coll

No restrictions whatever on law abiding citizens.
Criminals however should not be allowed near one.
Personal favourite?

- Peter.

Agreed.
Favorite, the one in my hand.