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Old 04-21-2009, 11:31 AM
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SEAL Team hamstrung by ROE during pirate hostage mess

It coulda been over sooner, if Barry would not have pulled a Warren Christopher....amateurs trying to guide warriors.....

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:48 AM
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Sour grapes on the menu again today?
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:52 AM
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Sour grapes on the menu again today?
making whine today perhaps. Bottom line the boyz got them out and thats what counts.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:24 PM
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making whine today perhaps. Bottom line the boyz got them out and thats what counts.
X2 Mistress.

This article is armchair analysis at its most mediocre. ROEs are often very tough and give those on the ground a lot of latitude.

Journalists typically see a sanitized, homogenized post-event version of the ROE, which does not come from the White House, by the way: it comes from the CJCS.

That's because the military does not want anyone to collect articles listing official ROEs following incidents, so that bad guys can then predict the extent of the latitude which the operators on the ground can use without getting feedback from the higher HQ. It's called OPSEC: defensive operational security, long-term.

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Wow... here we have a successful outcome, hostage rescued unharmed, with a prisoner to try in accordance with our society's fundamental belief in the rule of law and the criticism continues. I know a lot of the critics would've preferred to see one more corpse. If those critics have their way, pretty soon you won't be able to tell the players without a scorecard.

And all this talk of Obama "basking in his success..." Obama took and continues to take a very, very low profile in this episode. He has NOT grandstanded at all.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:03 PM
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Wow... here we have a successful outcome, hostage rescued unharmed, with a prisoner to try in accordance with our society's fundamental belief in the rule of law and the criticism continues. I know a lot of the critics would've preferred to see one more corpse. If those critics have their way, pretty soon you won't be able to tell the players without a scorecard.

And all this talk of Obama "basking in his success..." Obama took and continues to take a very, very low profile in this episode. He has NOT grandstanded at all.
Exactly right. I pop into Hannity's radio show now and then for research purposes and a couple of days ago he had the Mark Levine character guest hosting. He played the skipper's remarks and said, "Didja notice he didn't mention Obama once?!" As if Obama had jumped up to take credit for the whole thing.

Holy crap Batman, no matter what the outcome, the O man was going to get grief over this incident.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:45 PM
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It coulda been over sooner, if Barry would not have pulled a Warren Christopher....amateurs trying to guide warriors.....

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95451

So, after reading that bull**** teaser, did you sign up for the one year subscription to get the rest of the story or just for a month? It's pitiful how people who claim to be educated can sop up this kind of divisive rhetoric like gravy, while lining the pockets of the scumbags who spoon feed it to them. Imagine what the storyline would've been had it been W in office.

Maybe it could have been over sooner, but the captain would not be more alive, and the three pirates would not be more dead, and we might not have one in custody at all.
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This is proof that you learn nothing from success. I hope the O administration is working on a SOP for dealing with pirate hostage situations since the pirates are targeting US flagged ships and will deal with US hostages much differently knowing that their heads will get blown off if the wait to long.

Yes, job well done but it can be better. Personally I think whoever leaked the story about the procrastination should be set adrift in that lifeboat, now the bad guys know our weakness.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:29 PM
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This is proof that you learn nothing from success. I hope the O administration is working on a SOP for dealing with pirate hostage situations since the pirates are targeting US flagged ships and will deal with US hostages much differently knowing that their heads will get blown off if the wait to long.
http://news.sympatico.msn.ca/World/ContentPosting?newsitemid=202358921&feedname=CP-WORLD&show=False&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=True

A large scale naval exercise has just begun off the coast of Florida, and this will be one of the training subjects.
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So, after reading that bull**** teaser, did you sign up for the one year subscription to get the rest of the story or just for a month? It's pitiful how people who claim to be educated can sop up this kind of divisive rhetoric like gravy, while lining the pockets of the scumbags who spoon feed it to them. Imagine what the storyline would've been had it been W in office.

Maybe it could have been over sooner, but the captain would not be more alive, and the three pirates would not be more dead, and we might not have one in custody at all.
Jeez, the way he is complaining, you'd think Obama had attacked the wrong country after a massive terrorist attack on the US, letting the attackers get away scott free to attack us again in the process.
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JR you left out some stuff....Its like he attacked the wrong country while trying to get terrorists. Under false pretenses of WMDs that never showed up. And then said farce to find the WMDs cost billions upon billions of dollars and too many good soldiers lives and many many civilians and our world wide credibility.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:24 PM
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JR you left out some stuff....Its like he attacked the wrong country while trying to get terrorists. Under false pretenses of WMDs that never showed up. And then said farce to find the WMDs cost billions upon billions of dollars and too many good soldiers lives and many many civilians and our world wide credibility.
Trying to get terrorists? George Bush himself said there was no connection between Al Queda and Iraq.
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Trying to get terrorists? George Bush himself said there was no connection between Al Queda and Iraq.
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Old 04-22-2009, 06:11 AM
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Trying to get terrorists? George Bush himself said there was no connection between Al Queda and Iraq.
Yes? If he did he said the opposite many more times!
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JR you left out some stuff....Its like he attacked the wrong country while trying to get terrorists. Under false pretenses of WMDs that never showed up. And then said farce to find the WMDs cost billions upon billions of dollars and too many good soldiers lives and many many civilians and our world wide credibility.
http://www.bizzyblog.com/2005/11/02/the-no-wmd-lie-2/

They found them and they know where the others are (Syria)
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