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SEAL Team hamstrung by ROE during pirate hostage mess
It coulda been over sooner, if Barry would not have pulled a Warren Christopher....amateurs trying to guide warriors.....
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=95451 |
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Sour grapes on the menu again today?
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making whine today perhaps. Bottom line the boyz got them out and thats what counts.
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Wow... here we have a successful outcome, hostage rescued unharmed, with a prisoner to try in accordance with our society's fundamental belief in the rule of law and the criticism continues. I know a lot of the critics would've preferred to see one more corpse. If those critics have their way, pretty soon you won't be able to tell the players without a scorecard.
And all this talk of Obama "basking in his success..." Obama took and continues to take a very, very low profile in this episode. He has NOT grandstanded at all.
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This article is armchair analysis at its most mediocre. ROEs are often very tough and give those on the ground a lot of latitude. Journalists typically see a sanitized, homogenized post-event version of the ROE, which does not come from the White House, by the way: it comes from the CJCS. That's because the military does not want anyone to collect articles listing official ROEs following incidents, so that bad guys can then predict the extent of the latitude which the operators on the ground can use without getting feedback from the higher HQ. It's called OPSEC: defensive operational security, long-term. What your opponent doesn't know can't hurt you.
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So, after reading that bull**** teaser, did you sign up for the one year subscription to get the rest of the story or just for a month? It's pitiful how people who claim to be educated can sop up this kind of divisive rhetoric like gravy, while lining the pockets of the scumbags who spoon feed it to them. Imagine what the storyline would've been had it been W in office. Maybe it could have been over sooner, but the captain would not be more alive, and the three pirates would not be more dead, and we might not have one in custody at all.
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This is proof that you learn nothing from success. I hope the O administration is working on a SOP for dealing with pirate hostage situations since the pirates are targeting US flagged ships and will deal with US hostages much differently knowing that their heads will get blown off if the wait to long. Yes, job well done but it can be better. Personally I think whoever leaked the story about the procrastination should be set adrift in that lifeboat, now the bad guys know our weakness. |
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JR you left out some stuff....Its like he attacked the wrong country while trying to get terrorists. Under false pretenses of WMDs that never showed up. And then said farce to find the WMDs cost billions upon billions of dollars and too many good soldiers lives and many many civilians and our world wide credibility.
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I got that via email, but with a lot more comments. It supposed quoted a SEAL Naval officer.
It smelled like B.S. to me, which is why I didn't forward it. It talks too much about details of operations. My EXTREMELY limited interactions with special operations people is such that operational security is extremely important to them. They don't talk about their operations with people outside of the 'need-to-know' group they work with. If it is real, then I hope the professional plumbers go after the leak and plug it. |
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...on whose trial we are doubtless about to spend a few million on... to then put in a fed prison somewhere to be housed, fed and cared for with our money. Is this a great country or what?
Teenage pirate was ‘brainwashed,’ mom says Family saved $6 each month to pay for school fees in impoverished Somalia MOGADISHU, Somalia - At home in central Somalia, Abdiwali Abdiqadir Muse frequented a dusty, outdoor cinema after school, watched Bollywood films dubbed into his native Somali and, his mother says, "was wise beyond his age." Now Muse — the sole surviving Somali pirate from the hostage-taking of an American ship captain — is a world away in New York City to face what are believed to be the first piracy charges in the United States in more than a century. He smiled but said nothing Tuesday as he was led into a federal building under heavy guard. "The last time I saw him he was in his school uniform," the teen's mother, Adar Abdirahman Hassan, 40, told The Associated Press by telephone Tuesday from her home in the central Somali town of Galkayo. "He was brainwashed. People who are older than him outwitted him, people who are older than him duped him." ( she has a telephone in her home?) Muse's personal details are murky, with his parents in Somalia insisting he was tricked into getting involved in piracy. His age also remained unclear. His parents said he is only 16; law enforcement said he is at least 18, meaning prosecutors will not have to take extra legal steps to try him in a U.S. court. Muse's mother said she has no records to prove his age, but she and the teen's father say he is 16. "I never delivered my babies in a hospital," she said. "A traditional midwife helped me deliver." 'Corrupted' A schoolmate, however, said he believed Muse was older. "I think he was one or two years older than me, and I am 16," said Abdisalan Muse, reached by telephone in Galkayo. "We did not know him to be a pirate, but he was always with older boys, who are likely to be the ones corrupted him." It is rare for Somalis to have formal birth records, and U.S. officials did not say on what basis they know he is 18. The teenager was flown from Africa to New York, where he was being charged under two obscure federal laws that deal with piracy and hostage-taking, according to a law enforcement official familiar with the case. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the charges had not been announced. Muse grew up poor, the child of a divorced mother, in one of the most impoverished, violent countries in the world — a nation of around 8 million people that has not had a functioning government since 1991. A quarter of Somali children die before age 5 and nearly every public institution has collapsed. His mother sells milk at a small market every day, saving around $6 every month for school fees for her son. "I cried when I saw the picture of him," Hassan said, referring to the photo of her son being led in handcuffs in New York. "Relatives brought a copy of the picture to me. Surely he is telling himself now, 'My mother's heart is broken.'" |
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A large scale naval exercise has just begun off the coast of Florida, and this will be one of the training subjects.
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We are a nation of laws, and yes, it is a great country.
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Laws obeyed at the whim or convenience of the individual.
And, yes, it's still a great country. |
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