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Fitz · #46 12-30-2009, 01:50 PM

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The construction has halted. Were's your evidence it hasn't?

Since you aren't interested in an honest discussion, I'll just leave you to your fantasies, including the one where Obama tells Israel what they're going to do regarding the settlements

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I posted this a month ago, from the liberal Huffington Post....

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What is in the moratorium?

No new construction starts in the settlements (including construction that was approved in the past).

No new steps to plan, prepare, and authorize future settlement construction.

No new construction of settlement-related infrastructure.

These steps apply to the West Bank, including the so-called "Jerusalem envelope" area (settlements like Maale Adumim and Givat Zeev) and the "settlements blocs".

What is not included in the moratorium?
Construction in East Jerusalem - the Israeli government is not taking upon itself to stop the construction in the Israeli neighborhoods built on lands East of the Green Line, that were unilaterally annexed to the Jerusalem municipality, and is not obliged to prevent further expansion and take over of properties and lands in the Palestinian neighborhoods around to Old City.

Construction that was already started - the Israeli government is not taking upon itself to stop the construction of units where construction has already begun. According to the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics there are today aprox. 2,895 housing units under construction in the settlements, the construction of which will probably be completed in a year or two.

Public Buildings - a number of specified public building projects (e.g. schools and synagogues) and specified public infrastructure projects.

What is still unclear?
By what mechanism Israel will define what constitutes a building where construction has started. For instance, Peace Now revealed that settlers had started the groundworks for 800 buildings in anticipation of an announcement like this, most of them are not in the stage of laying foundations yet. Will work on these be frozen as a part of the moratorium?

To what extent will Israel restrain provocative building in East Jerusalem. The fallout from the recent announcement of plans to expand Gilo indicates just how seriously these projects are seen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hagit-ofran/the-settlement-freeze_b_371436.html

cmac2012 · #47 12-30-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll

Their assumptions may not be correct. And I'd be willing to say that Washington, at least in it's current iteration, does not have the cajones itself. So the Iranians can safely thumb their noses as the "international community" as much as they like.

- Peter.

We had the cajones to attack Iraq. How's that one turning out?

Blundering with bravado should not be confused with intelligent activity. The Iranians are on a path of regime change of their own. An attack by us could set that back a long ways.

pj67coll · #48 12-30-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by C Sean Watts

The GCC folks KNEW they could have (had the capability and still do) but they (Arab leaders in the cultural sense) him, haw and debate rather than carry out actions on difficult decisions.

GCC?

- Peter.