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Old 01-10-2010, 09:21 PM
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Guns are the great equalizer. In this case a 74 year old man was able to successfuly defend himself from two attackers that are probably 1/3 of his age.

Good shot!

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Old 01-10-2010, 09:27 PM
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And who can forget that Royalty of Hypocrisy Washington Post Columnist/Anti-Gun Zealot/Gay Basher/ Disabled Rights Denier/ African American William Raspberry using his illegal handgun in Washington DC shooting an underprivileged underserved intruder!

Or Rep. Borris Miles Texas State Lawmaker TEXAS STATE LAWMAKER OPPOSING DEADLY FORCE BILL SHOOTS WOULD-BE THIEF

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288737,00.html
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And who can forget that Royalty of Hypocrisy Washington Post Columnist/Anti-Gun Zealot/Gay Basher/ Disabled Rights Denier/ African American William Raspberry using his illegal handgun in Washington DC shooting an underprivileged underserved intruder!

Or Rep. Borris Miles Texas State Lawmaker TEXAS STATE LAWMAKER OPPOSING DEADLY FORCE BILL SHOOTS WOULD-BE THIEF

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288737,00.html
(wow, you watch fox news? i am shocked. )

anyway, back to the original thread, and its allegedly serious question.

no, guns don't make you stupid. (and trust me, i'm all for gun control, and would love if i could somehow prove and believe this - alas, i must be honest and say i can not. )

however, i do believe that mr. arenas, by dint of his actions, has made a very strong argument for greater gun control. even you diehard gun rights people can't believe that such a dummy should be allowed to own a gun?
please tell me why he should ever have that right, based on his actions?
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:47 PM
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Interesting story, I'd like to hear him try to explain why he had guns at the ready in his house when he opposed the idea.

I agree with him shooting the guy, up to a point. If there was a way to chase him away short of shooting him, I'd have done that. Either that or kill the guy, and that won't always happen. In this case, hate to say it, he better hope that guy gets life w/o parole. Cause pea brains can have a weird sense of revenge. Doesn't matter that he wouldn't have gotten shot if'n hadn't been breaking in. Criminals are not moral.

Either that, or I'd move and become very private on my address. You don't want some scum like that coming at you with a shotgun.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:01 PM
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Interesting story, I'd like to hear him try to explain why he had guns at the ready in his house when he opposed the idea.
Me too, seems hypocritical.

I agree with him shooting the guy, up to a point.
If someone I don't know, or wasn't invited, comes into my house, chances are they'll be leaving in a body bag, that's just the way it is.
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(wow, you watch fox news? i am shocked. )

anyway, back to the original thread, and its allegedly serious question.

no, guns don't make you stupid. (and trust me, i'm all for gun control, and would love if i could somehow prove and believe this - alas, i must be honest and say i can not. )

however, i do believe that mr. arenas, by dint of his actions, has made a very strong argument for greater gun control. even you diehard gun rights people can't believe that such a dummy should be allowed to own a gun?
please tell me why he should ever have that right, based on his actions?
I have not read of any restrictions, on whom may own a firearm, in the 2nd amendment.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:46 PM
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Interesting story, I'd like to hear him try to explain why he had guns at the ready in his house when he opposed the idea.
He's a Dumbocrat. He doesn't have to make any sense, nor does he have to explain his obvious hipocracy.
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:51 PM
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He's a Dumbocrat. He doesn't have to make any sense, nor does he have to explain his obvious hipocracy.
Yawn. Some of his constituents will ask the question. Count on it. Does he stonewall from start to finish? Don't think he can get away with that.

I've got a thread up about the TV (3 hour) miniseries with Robert Duvall: Broken Trail. Just a TV drama I know but it does make one consider that such events did approximately take place and you'd be an utter fool not to have quality firearms were you dealing with that sort of trade.

In a rural setting where you could easily be victimized by a small gang of miscreants, possession of firearms would most certainly not be associated with 'stupid.'
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(wow, you watch fox news? i am shocked. )

anyway, back to the original thread, and its allegedly serious question.

no, guns don't make you stupid. (and trust me, i'm all for gun control, and would love if i could somehow prove and believe this - alas, i must be honest and say i can not. )

however, i do believe that mr. arenas, by dint of his actions, has made a very strong argument for greater gun control. even you diehard gun rights people can't believe that such a dummy should be allowed to own a gun?
please tell me why he should ever have that right, based on his actions?
The incident happened in DC, correct?
Private gun ownership there is as restricted as possible.
His actions were illegal.
Pass more laws, and his actions will still be illegal.
He is a criminal already. How do you make criminals obey the law?
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I can see that firearms have a place in the world, at any rate, we're stuck with them and of course if only bad guys had them . . .

There's really no point in me slandering all gun owners. I'm not sure having a handgun on me 24/7 (were I in a C&C state) wouldn't make me a tad more stupid. Good possibility it would make me a bit less inclined to use diplomacy and my silver tongue to keep me out of trouble - instead I could easily jump to the thought, 'Oh yeah? Well Mssrs. Smith and Wesson here are of a mind that it would be a simple matter to drain a large quantity of blood out of your sorry carcass.'

Actually if you take a CCW class and talk too people who regularly carry, that is exactly the opposite of their mindsets. Having a gun is a last ditch defensive measure to only be used when your own life is in imminent danger. An example would be if you are confronted by an armed mugger who is threatening your life.

You will not hear anybody talking about brandishing a weapon or similar junk, in fact brandishing is a crime for most jurisdictions that allow CC...
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Old 01-12-2010, 04:43 PM
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I think my opinion is skewed by the good luck I've experienced in my life. I drove night shift cab in Seattle off and on for years, a bit more dicey than day shift which I did plenty of also. Never had an armed robbery attempt or any other incident that a gun would have made better.

Were I in work that was more risky and had been held up at gunpoint, or were I a woman who had been brutally raped, several times for either of these particularly, I'm sure I'd be much more willing to risk whatever downside there is to carrying a handgun in order to at least have a chance to erase one source of menace and save myself in the process.
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Were I in work that was more risky and had been held up at gunpoint, or were I a woman who had been brutally raped, several times for either of these particularly, I'm sure I'd be much more willing to risk whatever downside there is to carrying a handgun in order to at least have a chance to erase one source of menace and save myself in the process.
In that case, wouldn't it be easier to just move?
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:33 AM
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In that case, wouldn't it be easier to just move?
A lot of times it would be. But I've read that women who get violated don't escape that feeling so easy. But God only knows why women who carry guns carry them. I'm sure the reasons are many.

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