We're not sure, still waiting for the test results.

Every day people are straying away from the church and going back to God. L. Bruce

Mr. Bruce was ahead of his time.

Yes, I am such a failure.

Good luck with yourself.

Hope you make it, mr lone wolf.

Can you understand that social beings adapt also.

Like bees, and ants, and dingos, and humans.

Adaptation is not just physical, but is also mental.

Some of us learn to cooperate with the group, to attain goals for the group, not just ourselves alone.

We work towards our own goals, and align them with the goals of the group.

It all reminds me of the unsavory spectical of the Right blaming the folks who had the misfortune of living in the ninth ward in NOL for their plight in Katrina!

Pure unadulterated brass!

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The problem comes when you and your group attempt and succeed in using the power of government; to confiscate the wealth and the fruits of the labors of others who decline membership in your little commune, in order to finance and support the collective failure of you and your group-mates.

I know this will rock your fundamental belief system but we are not “all in this together” we are all here in the same place and at the same time but my goal is to ensure that I and my offspring survive and if it’s at your expense, so be it. The other fundamental difference is that I do not delude myself into thinking others are not intent on their own same goals.

That's pretty funny! With the entire media, every liberal and virtually all the folks in the ninth ward in NOL blaming others for not responding to their plight fast enough, good enough, and long enough; which started when Katrina hit and continues onto today and will likely continue forever! Hundreds of billions of dollars and they're all still crying more!, more!, they just used that old tired saw again to squeeze another 300 million out of the rest of America in the health care debacle! Shameless!

You are entitled to your opinion. Fortunately for the rest of us, you and those who share you beliefs have negligible influence on public policy, under either political party.

Thanks! I was waiting for your acquiescence, NOT!

OK, have fun in your own little world.

thanks for adding some facts to the discussion; they seem to be in short supply around here. might want to clue our group in on pat's deal with RBS - this, from a man who claims that bankers and the queen of england (and satan ) run (ruin) the world.

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to the moderators: its one thing to speak out with one's opinion, quite another to insult other forum members constantly while spouting one's opinion. i have crossed said line before, and have rightfully (and properly) been censured. has this policy been abandoned? thank you.

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

Actually, I would separate these two a little; Robertson and his minions are nothing but scam artists trying to maximize their own wealth. Limbaugh is nothing but a media guy; the more outrageous he is, the more free publicity he gets. They are both scum for trying to cash in on a disaster; but slightly different types of scum.

I wonder how the rest of the world will treat us when our time in the spot light is over and the American kingdom starts to see the sun set.

I remember someone telling me that "you need to be careful of the fingers as you climb up the ladder because they will be attached toe the asses you will be kissing on the way down" or something to that effect.

No kingdom has lasted for ever. We will not always be the haves. At some point we will become the have nots or have nothings if we are not already on our way there.

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- God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that's getting smaller and smaller as time moves on..." Neil DeGrasse Tyson
- You can pray for me, I'll think for you.
- When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.

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