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Old 03-17-2010, 07:15 AM
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The Jaguar E-Type is in the Museum of Modern Art. None of those cars accomplished that.
Wasn't the Lincoln Mark 2 of the mid fifties one of the first cars to get that honor?

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Old 03-17-2010, 07:27 AM
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My John Deere lawn tractor is more technically sophisticated than the Mustang's '60 Falcon progenitor.
As a long time Ford fan, and Falcon restorer I'd like to take offense at that comment---but I can't.
However, the Falcon must be understood in its historical context to be fully appreciated. Look at where the standard American sedan was heading size-wise iin the late 50s and early 60s.
The Falcon ( along with Corvair and Valiiant) were much more efficient in their use of space than the standard cars.
At the time of its introduction Ford was hoping to sell a few thousand a year--they ended up with over a million in two and a hald years, IIRC. Until the Mustang came out, the Falcon was the most sucessful new car, in terms of sales, in auto history. ( Replacing, incidentaly, another Ford which had held that honor--the Model A).
Read the road tests at the time of its introduction, and you find very favorable reports, not only on the USA, but in Canada, as well as the UK.

Your Deere is probably a half a century newer than that 1960 Falcon--it should be more technologically advanced.
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Old 03-17-2010, 08:15 AM
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With the broad aftermarket support for the Mustang and a bottomless wallet, you could turn a basic '65 notchback into a rocket that can also turn and stop...as long as you brace the hell out of the flexistructure and throw away every single braking/drivetrain/suspension component and start all over again. My John Deere lawn tractor is more technically sophisticated than the Mustang's '60 Falcon progenitor.

yep, my 70 mustang will get you from point a to point b very fast, as long as it has a point c a long way past and in a straight line because if I have to brake or turn there's big trouble....... I did run a Saleen this weekend though, the fool let me start on a roll, he never had a chance.....
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:35 AM
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My John Deere lawn tractor is more technically sophisticated than the Mustang's '60 Falcon progenitor.
Totally, I'd rather hit the track in my X300 than a 'Stang. Twin-Touch auto tranny coupled with an iTorque 17-HP V-twin air cooled Kawasaki beast, yo! I'd lower the cutting deck for some extra downdraft around the corners.
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I have a push mower where I live, but don't make me bring out the New Holland from over at the farm. That thing is a beast. Also... I think Ford Falcons look cool, and would be a neat car to own someday.
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When I was in Argentina in the mid-70's, new early 60's style Falcons were being manufactured there.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:58 AM
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When I was in Argentina in the mid-70's, new early 60's style Falcons were being manufactured there.
That is because the body dies for them got sent there after Ford in the USA got done with them; The '60 Falcon in black with a yellow top was THE taxi you looked for in Buenos Aires for years and years.

As late as 1982 they were still sold with updated styling and rectangular head lights..





They also bought the 1968 Ford Torino sedan body dies,

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-83417332-_JM

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-83739420-ford-fairlane-ltd-_JM

http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-82644664-ford-fairlane-nafta-1972-excelente-oportunidad-santa-fe-_JM


and even the 1966-1969 Galaxie 500 LTD dies and mildly restyled them, though a LOT less of them were sold.
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I think most cars are a work of art, especially older ones. The amount of planning that goes into them inside and out is just remarkable. I certainly appreciate the effort of the many minds and hands that go into the creation of a car.
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Wasn't the Lincoln Mark 2 of the mid fifties one of the first cars to get that honor?


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1956 Continental Mark II.

The Continental Mark II was a unique and exclusive personal luxury car produced by a newly formed Continental Division of the Ford Motor Company during 1956 and 1957. Many aficionados of the automobile consider the Continental Mark II one of the classics of the postwar period.

The new Continental was not intended to be the largest nor the most powerful automobile, but rather the most luxurious and elegant American car available. What emerged was something quite unlike other American cars of the period. While other makes experimented with flamboyant chrome-laden styling, the Continental Mark II sought to evoke a European simplicity of line and understated grace consistent with its name.

The Continental sported a Lincoln style spare tire hump, shared the new Lincoln Lincoln 368 in (6.0 L) V8 and running gear, and was sold and serviced at Lincoln dealerships, causing many to think of the Mark II as a Lincoln when it was technically not. Although designs of a four door and convertible version were explored by Ford, they were never manufactured and marketed. The Mark II was offered and sold only as a two-door hardtop coupe.

Most of the car was effectively hand-built to an exacting standard, including multiple coats of paint hand-sanded down and double-lacquered and polished to perfection. Due to this manufacturing process the Continental Mark II cost US$10,000, as much as a Rolls-Royce or two top-of-the-line Cadillacs. All units were fully equipt with power steering, power brakes, automatic windows, automatic transmission, motorized radio and antenna, and luxurious interior of imported Scottish leather. The only option available was air conditioning which evidenced itself in the 1956 units by "nostrils" for air intake located on the upper rear fenders. Cool air from a trunk mounted evaporator coil enterred the passenger compartment from four vent registers located in the corners of the roof headliner.

Famous owners included Elvis Presley, as well as Frank Sinatra, the Shah of Iran, and a cross-section of the richest men in America.

Today, it is estimated that 1800 of the original 3000 cars still exist. A "parts car" can command up to $10,000. A running vehicle depending on condition will range from $20,000 to $90,000. Examples judged to be "concours" minimally command $125,000.

Owners and enthusiasts of this rare car are active on their web forum Mark II Forum
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Anybody up for posting their personal list?
IIUC, the purpose is that the list contains a car for everyone and every purpose; not just 10 favorite cars.
It would seem that the list needs a commuter car, a large sedan, a sports sedan, a sports car, a SUV, and a real pick up truck at the very least.
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Attempting to make a list like that for me is currently not physically possible by any means known to mankind. Those kinds of calculations would give Nasa techies a woodie. Say, a nice woody wagon with a flat head 8 wouldn't be bad on the list..... NO>>>> OJROFUIDEBguizvogfsouegrz MUST RESIST!
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Old 03-18-2010, 06:58 AM
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Attempting to make a list like that for me is currently not physically possible by any means known to mankind. Those kinds of calculations would give Nasa techies a woodie. Say, a nice woody wagon with a flat head 8 wouldn't be bad on the list..... NO>>>> OJROFUIDEBguizvogfsouegrz MUST RESIST!
I like the way your mind works.
We have to have at least one classic flat head V8 on the list.
How about a list of cars by number of cylinders?
1 easy the Patent Motor Wagon by Benz
2 Citroen 2CV (2 cylinder opposed, right?)
3 unknown--unless we use a 3 rotor Wankel
4 too many possibilities from Ford Model T, to Type 1 VW, to dozens others
5 another easy one the 5 clyinder turbo diesel 300SD W116 or W126
6 early Corvette with the Blue Flame Special
7 didn't someone adapt a 7 cyl aircraft rotoary to a motorcycle?
8 Oh boy Many choices here, too
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10 Viper, or Ford F150 Lightning ( pick up!)
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12 Ferrai (almost any)
16 Marmon

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