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Old 11-11-2010, 10:32 AM
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I wasn't aware that I had previously expressed my summary of my belief of what Larry's political views are. Next time you try to build a straw man, cheat, and use some epoxy.
Do you hold someone else's views on Larry? If not then any prior post is an expression of your beliefs. Is that beyond your comprehension to understand so I need to speak in more primitive terms?

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Old 11-11-2010, 10:35 AM
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:36 AM
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Do you hold someone else's views on Larry? If not then any prior post is an expression of your beliefs. Is that beyond your comprehension to understand so I need to speak in more primitive terms?
"any prior post is an expression of your beliefs"...You know what, break it down into more primitive terms for me, as your commentary is fairly unintelligible at this point. Thanks.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:59 AM
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I still don't like bigots or racist LB
Thanks TX. I hope it didn't bother you to be one of those caught in my trap. I think you are taking this with the same light heart I meant it. I think most people did not catch onto my self deprecation in ADMITTING guilt of bigotry. Maybe they missed it because the shoe fit so they had to wear it.

By the definition, very few people miss being bigots. I think with many, the meaning of the word has been skewed over the years due to it's most common uses in context.

Thanks for the smile and for not taking it all too seriously.

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Old 11-11-2010, 11:01 AM
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"any prior post is an expression of your beliefs"...You know what, break it down into more primitive terms for me, as your commentary is fairly unintelligible at this point. Thanks.
It takes two to communicate with each other. I have found MTU's statements to be quite clear. The transmitter is working. Must be time to check the receiver.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:04 AM
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It takes two to communicate with each other. I have found MTU's statements to be quite clear. The transmitter is working. Must be time to check the receiver.
The transmitter is just your little buddy trying to wrest your chestnuts out of your self-created fire. Your perception of him and his posts cannot be considered objective.

Still awaiting my apology...
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:15 AM
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If I do anything requiring an apology, it will be quickly forthcoming.
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:21 AM
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By the definition, very few people miss being bigots. I think with many, the meaning of the word has been skewed over the years due to it's most common uses in context.
I think it all boils down to what is considered, at this time, to be acceptable and what isn't. Kinda like say Free Speech is to quite a few. If I like it, speak on. If I don't, STFU. Doesn't seem to matter if it is a liberal, conservative or someone in between. Take racism. It is a form of prejudice. We try to stamp out the form but leave the main unit intact. Why? Because I have a few sacred cows in that respect. If we fight prejudice, my sacred cows will be killed too. Lets fight the socially unacceptable one. That way, we can go home and feel good about ourselves AND have our sacred cows.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:21 PM
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"Stubborn or COMPLETE INTOLERANCE of ANY belief or opinion that differs from ones own"

If this is to be the sole determining factor of what a 'bigot' is then I would say we all fall into that category. However I disagree with that premise. I do not believe that someone who says that they hate all pedophiles or murderers is on the same level as someone who says they hate all blacks or they hate all whites. If this standard is to be used I would argue that there are 'good' bigots and there are bad ones. This like anything else is subjective. Society as a whole will be the judge.

And I still think you are a bigot and you're not one of the good ones.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:27 PM
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If this is to be the sole determining factor of what a 'bigot' is then I would say we all fall into that category. However I disagree with that premise. I do not believe that someone who says that they hate all pedophiles or murderers is on the same level as someone who says they hate all blacks or they hate all whites. If this standard is to be used I would argue that there are 'good' bigots and there are bad ones. This like anything else is subjective. Society as a whole will be the judge.

And I still think you are a bigot and you're not one of the good ones.

All I'm doing is quoting a dictionary definition. Don't argue with me. Argue with the dictionary.

I got infractions for calling names. I'm not sure how you get by with it.

I will do this in the open because I abhor doing things behind peoples backs. I am pressing the triangle button to notify a moderator.
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Old 11-11-2010, 01:54 PM
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All I'm doing is quoting a dictionary definition. Don't argue with me. Argue with the dictionary.


I question the point of this thread....
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Your statement presumes that there is a point...
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:15 PM
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If this is to be the sole determining factor of what a 'bigot' is then I would say we all fall into that category. However I disagree with that premise. I do not believe that someone who says that they hate all pedophiles or murderers is on the same level as someone who says they hate all blacks or they hate all whites. If this standard is to be used I would argue that there are 'good' bigots and there are bad ones. This like anything else is subjective. Society as a whole will be the judge.

And I still think you are a bigot and you're not one of the good ones.

Since we are being so open and honest with each other. I share your feeling that there are different levels of bigotry. I too believe that murderers and pedophiles have to be at a different level than other groups when it comes to intolerance.

What I add to this, however, is that I don't see very much difference between Sodomites and Pedophiles.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:18 PM
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If this is to be the sole determining factor of what a 'bigot' is then I would say we all fall into that category. However I disagree with that premise. I do not believe that someone who says that they hate all pedophiles or murderers is on the same level as someone who says they hate all blacks or they hate all whites. If this standard is to be used I would argue that there are 'good' bigots and there are bad ones.

This like anything else is subjective.

Society as a whole will be the judge.
If we are by definition, we are. Change yourself or live with it. This sounds like a thief who doesn't want to be called a thief. Sorry, Robin Hood. You are a thief, plain and simple. Stop stealing or just admit you are a thief.

What you have defined is subjective. The word isn't.

Fair enough. Let society be the judge. During the crusades, one side was made up of bigots and the other side was the long suffering party who were only trying to survive. Which side was which? Well, it is obvious. It is the other side as said by one side. During slavery times, who were the good guys? Why, the slave owners, of course. Society was fine with that but some nosy bastards kept trying to help the escapees flee. Kinda like me helping your cattle run off. Of course, the other side too had their version but the society was fine with it. Pre WWII Germany. Obviously the Jews were the bad guys as Hitler, Himmler, etc, etc will tell you. Germany also didn't seem too worried with them being persecuted for no reason. They were scum. So which society are you going to accept as judge?
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:28 PM
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If we are by definition, we are. Change yourself or live with it. This sounds like a thief who doesn't want to be called a thief. Sorry, Robin Hood. You are a thief, plain and simple. Stop stealing or just admit you are a thief.

What you have defined is subjective. The word isn't.

Fair enough. Let society be the judge. During the crusades, one side was made up of bigots and the other side was the long suffering party who were only trying to survive. Which side was which? Well, it is obvious. It is the other side as said by one side. During slavery times, who were the good guys? Why, the slave owners, of course. Society was fine with that but some nosy bastards kept trying to help the escapees flee. Kinda like me helping your cattle run off. Of course, the other side too had their version but the society was fine with it. Pre WWII Germany. Obviously the Jews were the bad guys as Hitler, Himmler, etc, etc will tell you. Germany also didn't seem too worried with them being persecuted for no reason. They were scum. So which society are you going to accept as judge?

Very well put. The historical perspective is the most important part.

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